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Desc:Geraldo is a dick, but nazis are worse.
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Submitted:bawbag
Date:01/25/17
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memedumpster
Good job, rantyfascists, you gunned down a Bernie Bro and sold Milo a million more copies of his book.

http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/crime/police-release- man-arrested-in-uw-shooting/

Cry "NAZI" and let loose the tards of war!
magnesium
Ah, the alt-right. Too weak-minded to ever be held responsible for their own actions, but it's everyone else who's the 'tards'.

15th
Held responsible? You mean being shot for going to a controversial speaking event? This will galvanize Milo's agenda.

When someone shows up to a word fight with a gun, they've conceded defeat. As the details stand, this guy is just as bad as the guy that shot into a car of black teenagers because of his fee fees.

If anyone of you are the kind of people that think Milo's crowd should have bricks hurled at them or shot into - you're a piece of shit orders of magnitudes worse than them.

bawbag
Again with the dumb, OTT false equivalences.

Also looks like the shooter is a milo fan so what point are you making exactly?
http://mynorthwest.com/522037/questions-after-uw-protest-shoot ing/

Let's also ignore the fact that white supremacist/racist groups are responsible for more deaths than islamic terrorists since 9/11 and just tut real loudly about how an antifa apple is the same as a nazi mass shooting orange!

poorwill
"Also looks like the shooter is a milo fan so what point are you making exactly?"

Allow me to explain: memedumpster is a stupid sack of shit.

15th
I didn't have the full scoop, just trying to get an inflammatory post in with my morning coffee. But, I guess you could stretch the equivalency to - justifying violence because the victim said racist things. Isn't that what the loud music asshole did?

I seriously don't know what anifta is, but if they use violence to further their political agenda, I don't agree with that - that would make them similiar to the fascists I assume they think they're combatting.

As far as the stats goes, I don't care which shitty group has a higher body count - opposing forces can both suck.

bawbag
"I don't care how many bodies the nazis are stacking up because this story about a milo fan shooting an antifascist shows how bad antifascists are" is your argument.

Looks like you need stronger coffee.

15th
No, come on. You know that's not my arguement. I'm assuming that we are all starting from the baseline of - fuck Nazi/racist ideology and their rights go out the window as soon as they lay a hand on another person. My whole arguement is that it's immoral to meet words and bad ideas with violence.

BHWW
>Let's also ignore the fact that white supremacist/racist groups are responsible for more deaths than islamic terrorists since 9/11 and just tut real loudly about how an antifa apple is the same as a nazi mass shooting orange!

Let's talk about the fact that you're a credulous moron who is repeating an easily debunked lie.

A lie based on misleading statistics that usually exclude 9/11, USS Cole, the 1993 WTC bombing, and other events arbitrarily. It combines a heterogeneous set of extremists and motivations from tax protesters, to "pro-life" terrorists, racist groups, non-Islamist anti-Semitic attacks - puts them under a single label and compares them against a more ideologically uniform group of jihadis.

If you look at murders of Americans only on American soil, "right-wing extremists" win by a marginal amount - about 3 murders out of about 50 total for each group.

https://www.newamerica.org/in-depth/terrorism-in-america/what- threat-united-states-today/#americas-layered-defenses

Once you include American citizens travelling abroad (for example, visiting a club in Bali), the situation changes drastically, with Islamists killing at least twice as many Americans as everyone else combined.

This also has a tendency to run into the peddled lie that "94 percent of terror attacks were committed by non-Muslims" which came from data compiled using an FBI study that looked at terrorism committed on U.S. soil between 1980 and 2005, that used a very dictionary definition of terrorism, so that, say bloodless attacks by groups like the Earth Liberation Front and the Animal Liberation were cited about 40 times, yet cited the 9/11 attacks as a single line item. So in this study, some eco-goons busting a ski lift is equitable to September 11.

What I'm trying to say is you're an idiot. But hey, good look with the whole "HEH I AM LE NAZI PUNCHER LE 500 NAZI SCALPS XD JUST LIKE IN MY FAVORITE COMIC BOOKS, MOVIES AND ANIMES", you know, thing.

bawbag
Nice big garbage rant BHWW, fucking hilarious that you as a grown adult think defining yourself by opposition to teen tumblr memes is in some way an argument though. It does explain your level of discourse.

ON AMERICAN SOIL, which is the unspoken context here before you tried shifting the goalposts even politifact know that right wing terror accounts for more: http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/jan/08/sally- kohn/kohn-911-right-wing-extremists-killed-more-america/

But sure arguing 'it's a complex issue to count' invalidates the whole point you fucktard. :)

Rodents of Unusual Size
What is a complicated issue here is how to get Neo Nazis to reform and come to the conclusion that Nazism is not a justifiable philosophy. Your cartoonish excitement over violence against them will not help when it comes to how to accomplish the goal of seeing Nazism become less popular rather than rise in popularity.

It depends on what your goal is. If your goal is revenge, then violence is an answer to that goal but if your goal is to see Nazis come to see the light and renounce their philosophy so that it dwindles rather than thrives, you have to do outreach and talk to them like humans and try to talk them out of it. You have to enact school programs, youth programs where young people are engaged in positive steps towards their future in an environment that fosters self improvement and togetherness. Many Neo Nazis have changed their ways after being in the army and working alongside people of all ethnicities, for example.

bawbag
Nobody cares racist of unusual shittiness, get the fuck out.

Rodents of Unusual Size
You seem to say that a lot these days. Especially when my points are valid and you don't want to admit that, because deep down you know I'm right.

bawbag
You are 'Far-right'.

RoUS greatest hits, track 1 "I didn't shed a single tear for Michael Brown because you reap what you sow. I also didn't give a fuck about Trayvon OR George Zimmerman. Trayvon would have shot someone eventually. Zimmerman is a dumbass. Alton Brown had a gun on him and was resisting arrest, and had a huge rap sheet. Likewise, I feel nothing inside.

http://www.poetv.com/video.php?vid=154568"

15th
Okay, I think it's important I say this.

Earlier, I shouldn't have even addressed people's emotional response to Spencer getting socked. If people were picketing outside my house with "death to handsome, blonde straight guys" I can't say what I would feel if one of them got punched. It might be satisfying, because I felt threatened by their presence and fear does breed anger. So, the gay and/non white poesters whom may have felt threatened by assholes like spencer and took a little enjoyment from him get socked, sorry if I came off as preachy. I don't know what it's like to be harassed by people for my identity. Sorry.

I stand by that it is unequivocally morally wrong to punch Spencer, my hypothetical 15th hater, a baptist preacher or anyone for shitty rhetoric. But, I apologize for the former - I don't know what it feels like.

Rodents of Unusual Size
I'm a socialist democrat who supported Bernie Sanders.

Rodents of Unusual Size
And I also supported Jill Stein. So politically, no you are incorrect. I don't have to share the same beliefs as they do on everything to support their agendas in terms of finance and law policy.

Same as I don't support everything on the right but I agree with some of the things they are proposing. I don't really categorize myself as being so militantly against listening to all sides and I agree with the GOP on a few issues. It doesn't mean I love Hitler, and just because I listen to right wing broadcasts on Youtube like Milo Y doesn't make me a Nazi, either. I don't agree with him on everything. I don't agree with the Young Turks on everything but I listen to them.

You and I are fundamentally different people in this sense. I think Scandanavia has the best political model and we should emulate them.

bawbag
Don't care. Go run into traffic.

Rodents of Unusual Size
Your replies are not substantive. Telling me various ways you think I should kill myself is not debate and it is not productive.

bawbag
Don't care, fuck off.

Scrimmjob
The only thing worse than a nazi is a Geraldo!
Born in the RSR
What about Stalin? So when Stalin kills Jews it's bad but when Hitler did it's no big deal?

The cognitive dissonance on these dipshits is always astounding.
Gmork
I'm guessing it's just an attempt to work in the "Yeah but communism!" angle that they all love so well.

Basically, because communism has killed far more than the nazis, it somehow makes what the nazis did no big deal. That's literally their train of thought.

bawbag
It's the same as when they bring up the irish slavery myth (http://www.rawstory.com/2016/04/irish-slaves-historian-destroys-r acist-myth-conservatives-love-to-share-on-facebook/), a way to try to lessen the enormity of racist/genocidal crimes through drawing broad false equivalences. Not to mention you'll be hard-pressed to find a large number of lefties who think of Stalin as anything but a murderous maniac.

It's a branch of the same broken tree as the 'the left is just as bad' argument so popular around here recently. The best part about the nazi sympathisers is they think they're being super democratic by defending free speech but not the right of their fellow citizens to live free of genocidal threats to their own democratic rights + existence.

15th
I don't think the left is as bad as the right - especially with regards to civil liberties. Although, the further to the extreme ends of either, the kooker shit gets. I'm more sensitive to my perceived flaws with liberalism, because that's "my team."

We all know how shitty the right wing can be. Constantly pointing that out would be like wasting my time writing a scathing critique of ICP's newest album.

bawbag
"We all know how shitty the right wing can be. Constantly pointing that out would be like wasting my time writing a scathing critique of ICP's newest album."

Not when the alternative is left/centrist self-flaggelation that lets them off the hook/tacitly approves of their right to incite race hate, genocide etc etc while we handwring over the ethics of a guy getting socked in the face.

Rodents of Unusual Size
Punching is the only answer!
bawbag
If the question is 'how should racists like RoUS be treated IRL' then pretty much yeah, though I'll give half a point for kicking or choking out.

Rodents of Unusual Size
I want everyone to take note of this. This is what I'm talking about. I've never threatened you. I've never made any indication I want you to get hurt. You continually have upped your game over how much you want me to feel afraid of you.

This is a physical threat. There are no other words for what you just said.

Where is Support in all this?

poorwill
Punching is the perfect answer. When somebody's ethos is 'might makes right', the quickest way to disabuse them of the notion is to show them that they are not mighty. People who think this is hypocritical don't understand how fascists think - don't understand anything, really.

bawbag
Actually, you'll notice it's a hypothetical question and the points are for providing the answer rather than engaging in the act but don't let that stop you clutching those pearls you racist snitch wannabe.

BHWW
I feel there's a middle ground between pacifism and punching people in the head for no reason that some people don't get.

Rodents of Unusual Size
You think Nazis should be punched because of their rhetoric, because you think they use rhetoric to insinuate future violence. Then you do the same thing, and take pleasure in using that rhetoric against me, indicating that violence should be done to me.

bawbag
Rodents, nobody cares. Get the fuck out you racist piece of shit.

Rodents of Unusual Size
I want Support here because you don't seem to understand that you can't just threaten me or anyone else any time you want to.

Also, you won't promise not to try to dox me. You refuse to do this and you have insinuated that you will do so several times. I want a statement made because you seem to think of this site as your own personal playground which you own, and you don't hold yourself responsible for any of these statements. Everyone else is black and white evil or good. You are exempt from criticism because you view yourself as wholly good. You talk about various ways for me to die and you just made a post about choking me out. You can't continually skirt around these posts because they speak to a pattern where you feel justified in making them.

So lets open this up to everyone else. Is what he's doing ok in terms of site policy? I would like to know what you think.

bawbag
"I feel there's a middle ground between pacifism and punching people in the head for no reason that some people don't get."

I don't feel there's a middle ground between calling for ethnic cleansing or 'black genocide' (both of which spencer has/does) and actually inciting such things so a punch to the head of someone who incites that is totally fine by me despite all the lengthy apologetics here and elsewhere.

Funny how all this 'principled nonviolent pacifism' round here goes out the window every time bombs start dropping on IS, the taliban or anyone else with murderous, genocidal aims.

bawbag
"Also, you won't promise not to try to dox me."

What sort of fucked up logic is this? I also won't promise not to try to send you flowers either, I won't promise not to call out your fucking gross racist bullshit at every opportunity, won't promise not to say 'better out than in' next time I fart.

There's lots of things I won't promise not to do, what's your fucking point dickhead? Get out of here before you have another breakdown and start blubbering.

Rodents of Unusual Size
You believe it's morally justifiable to injure them. Do you think it's morally justifiable to preemptively kill Neo Nazis? Would this prevent more violence between them and the rest of the populace?

Monkey Napoleon
It's ok when I do it. Additionally, phrasing my desire to do harm on another user as a rhetorical question makes it ok.

Taking a page from your book:

bawbag = orcs

Here's to your impending mental breakdown and site ban.

bawbag
Here's some more classic racism from rous:

http://www.poetv.com/video.php?vid=154421

"The elephant in the room is that there are black people out there who are racist as fuck and want nothing more than for white people to DIE. Doesn't matter if they are white citizens or white cops. They enjoy it, they get off on it, they cheer for it. Wake the fuck up. The people who lead this movement are secretly encouraging murder sprees. We over look black on white racism because it doesn't fit the narrative and it doesn't sell whatever you're hawking on CNN.

Fuck Black Lives Matter to the core of their being. I'm all for the right to protest but given the fact that they have already been infiltrated once by ISIS and are now TOTALLY NOT ENCOURAGING OR PROMOTING VIOLENCE AT ALL, we have cops being assassinated.

They don't care about black on black homicide, because that's all white people's fault, too. Everything is our fucking fault. They were colonized, so its to be expected that their people would murder each other whenever the hell they feel like it.

Fuck your trash culture and fuck you for defending it."

That time he directly just linked straight to actual stormfront material to make his shitty racist point: http://www.poetv.com/video.php?vid=155096
-------------------------------------------------------------- -

OR this one:

"They are proto-terrorists and they are offshooting into a segment that will produce more violence. Because that is what a certain percentage of them want.

I didn't shed a single tear for Michael Brown because you reap what you sow. I also didn't give a fuck about Trayvon OR George Zimmerman. Trayvon would have shot someone eventually. Zimmerman is a dumbass. Alton Brown had a gun on him and was resisting arrest, and had a huge rap sheet. Likewise, I feel nothing inside."

http://www.poetv.com/video.php?vid=154568

Rodents of Unusual Size
The difference is you are threatening me and insinuating you will dox me. You are not insinuating that you will send me flowers. They are not the same.

bawbag
I can't promise not to include words that you will read as insinuations. That's on you, you mental fuck.

bawbag
"I didn't shed a single tear for Michael Brown because you reap what you sow. I also didn't give a fuck about Trayvon OR George Zimmerman. Trayvon would have shot someone eventually. Zimmerman is a dumbass. Alton Brown had a gun on him and was resisting arrest, and had a huge rap sheet. Likewise, I feel nothing inside.

http://www.poetv.com/video.php?vid=154568"

Rodents of Unusual Size
So in other words, if I just happen to interpret your posts about maiming me in various ways as a physical threat, that's my fault.

What is your opinion on hate speech? Do you believe that as a member of a movement dedicated against hate speech, you should be an example to others in terms of clarifying your intentions are not to cause harm other posters?

bawbag
"So in other words, if I just happen to interpret your posts"

You interpretation is entirely your doing yes.

Here's some more classic racism from rous:

http://www.poetv.com/video.php?vid=154421

"The elephant in the room is that there are black people out there who are racist as fuck and want nothing more than for white people to DIE. Doesn't matter if they are white citizens or white cops. They enjoy it, they get off on it, they cheer for it. Wake the fuck up. The people who lead this movement are secretly encouraging murder sprees. We over look black on white racism because it doesn't fit the narrative and it doesn't sell whatever you're hawking on CNN.

Fuck Black Lives Matter to the core of their being. I'm all for the right to protest but given the fact that they have already been infiltrated once by ISIS and are now TOTALLY NOT ENCOURAGING OR PROMOTING VIOLENCE AT ALL, we have cops being assassinated.

They don't care about black on black homicide, because that's all white people's fault, too. Everything is our fucking fault. They were colonized, so its to be expected that their people would murder each other whenever the hell they feel like it.

Fuck your trash culture and fuck you for defending it."

That time he directly just linked straight to actual stormfront material to make his shitty racist point: http://www.poetv.com/video.php?vid=155096
-------------------------------------------------------------- -

OR this one:

"They are proto-terrorists and they are offshooting into a segment that will produce more violence. Because that is what a certain percentage of them want.

I didn't shed a single tear for Michael Brown because you reap what you sow. I also didn't give a fuck about Trayvon OR George Zimmerman. Trayvon would have shot someone eventually. Zimmerman is a dumbass. Alton Brown had a gun on him and was resisting arrest, and had a huge rap sheet. Likewise, I feel nothing inside."

http://www.poetv.com/video.php?vid=154568

jfcaron_ca
As if physical violence towards specific asshat individuals is absolutely always infinity-times more of a problem for society than "generalized hatred".

Rodents of Unusual Size
You didn't answer my question about your beliefs on hate speech. Is hate speech against your enemies okay?

You didn't answer my question on the morality of killing Nazis preemptively. Do you believe we should kill all members of the Neo Nazi movement preemptively?

bawbag
Get out.

"They are proto-terrorists and they are offshooting into a segment that will produce more violence. Because that is what a certain percentage of them want.

I didn't shed a single tear for Michael Brown because you reap what you sow. I also didn't give a fuck about Trayvon OR George Zimmerman. Trayvon would have shot someone eventually. Zimmerman is a dumbass. Alton Brown had a gun on him and was resisting arrest, and had a huge rap sheet. Likewise, I feel nothing inside." - RoUS, being himself.

http://www.poetv.com/video.php?vid=154568

Rodents of Unusual Size
I didn't know "Do you think you should kill people preemptively?" would be such a difficult question for you to answer and your unwillingness to answer it speaks volumes about you.

You flood these forums with your vilification and condemnation but what it comes down to is, I don't think murdering anyone is justifiable. You? I'm not so sure given your posting history. You keep dredging up my old posts because you are trying to deflect away from your own lack of ability to distinguish moral from immoral when it comes to violent assault and murder.

bawbag
"You flood these forums with your vilification blah blah blah"

I'm totally fine with vilifying openly racist, gross fuckwits like you.

Again, this is the sort of shit you routinely post here, so shut the fuck up about vilification you absolute fucking cancer. Go embrace your god with both barrels.

"I didn't shed a single tear for Michael Brown because you reap what you sow. I also didn't give a fuck about Trayvon OR George Zimmerman. Trayvon would have shot someone eventually. Zimmerman is a dumbass. Alton Brown had a gun on him and was resisting arrest, and had a huge rap sheet. Likewise, I feel nothing inside." - RoUS, being himself.

http://www.poetv.com/video.php?vid=154568

Bobonne
"for no reason".

Words can cause real, measurable, harm in people you'll never even met, by inspiring other people to go out and hurt those people.

Richard Spencer has been calling for "peaceful ethnic cleansing". Why has he used the word "peaceful"? Because it's cover for the sort of reaction he'd get if he didn't use it. This way, he gets interviewed by the media as someone with "alternative views" rather than the label "white supremacist/neo-nazi" on a crawl under his image.

He's helped influence the Trump campaign, and now administration, helped further radicalize and embolden thousands of white supremacists. People who talk in great detail about "rope day" and that amazing day when they have all the fags and the trannies and the niggers and the spics and the kikes up against the wall and each of them personally get to bash in at least one skull.

Did Goebbels deserve to get punched in the face somewhere back in the mid-thirties, despite never actually harming someone else physically, with his own hands?

Does someone in a fascist dictatorship who helps decry the "parasites amongst us", cover for the organization of the death squads and helping to point out "disloyal" targets, but never actually gets someone else's blood on their own hands deserve to get punched in the face?

When someone actively works toward the very real harm and death of thousands, if not millions, of "other"s, they are helping CAUSE very real harm, and they bear some responsibility for every person their rhetoric spurs others to murder.

Cause and effect, intent and action, it gets a bit murkier at a certain point of power within a movement where the infliction of consequence-free violence is the ultimate goal, in a way that it isn't for some asshole teenager nobody on 4chan that likes to type the n-word and retweets white supremacy memes, but has never actually physically harmed anyone else.

Life is complicated.

Bobonne
Also, SHUT THE FUCK UP, BOTH OF YOU, GODDAMNIT IT.

ROUS AND BAWBAG BOTH. ROUS, BAWBAG ISN'T GOING TO DOX YOU, SO STOP YOUR FUCKING LINESTEPPING BULLSHIT INSINUATIONS. BAWBAG, IF YOU DID DOX ROUS, THE PEOPLE "ON YOUR SIDE" WILL WORK TO GET YOU BANNED JUST LIKE ORCS. BOTH OF YOU ALREADY KNOW THESE THINGS, SO QUIT YOUR FUCKING DANCING AND SHUT THE FUCK UP.

BOTH OF YOU, SHUT THE FUCK UP AND DO SOMETHING PRODUCTIVE, INSTEAD.

teethsalad
stars for bobonne

Scrotum H. Vainglorious
dupe of all dupes
bawbag
The search is still horrible, my bad.

Just double-checked and didn't see any that were still up/resubbed though.

Monkey Napoleon
Translation: I didn't actually check, as I'm getting off too much on being a troll to care.

bawbag
^Stay mad fatass. Love how you will wait till you think there's a dogpile then come in nipping at my heels at every opportunity. :)

Monkey Napoleon
Every opportunity, huh?

You don't think it has anything to do with you now transitioning to an openly troll submission style after you saw how much attention you received from this particular event?

It's clear you don't understand why your alt account was banned, orcs.

bawbag
Nice try fatty.

Monkey Napoleon
Whatever you say, princess.

bawbag
You're fat lol.

Monkey Napoleon
You're gay lol.

bawbag
Fat and homophobic too, good job.

I already stated I'm not gay or straight. It's almost like there's other options that you missed in your desire to batter out a response.

Monkey Napoleon
You love it, fag.

Rafiki
I'd punch a Nazi so hard they'd stop being a Nazi.

If I saw a crowd of Nazis, I'd fucking cartwheel kick them all across the face, and they'd fly up in the air and spin around and fall to the ground.

I'm like a Nazi bouncer.
exy
At last! A sane approach.

1 for dupe.

bawbag
The dupe has zero tags and is the entire show broken into 7 parts, none of which are active. Posted by Knowfuture.

namtar
One star for being a troll and trying to start shit in the description
bawbag
Objection noted.

bawbag
That came off sarcastic, not my intent. Edited.

Accidie
This is our country now, and, as I scrolled down, this is also poetv now.

Everybody sit the hell down.
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