SolRo  - 2023-06-23
The proper etiquette for burying rich people at sea is to pour millions in taxpayer money on their bodies
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Binro the Heretic - 2023-06-23
I'm totally unsympathetic when people die doing stupid shit they know is highly dangerous for fun.
I feel bad for any of the grief their friends or family go through, but I won't mourn their loss.
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Binro the Heretic - 2023-06-23 I do kind of feel bad for the kid whose dad pressured him into going, though.
I'm sure his dad was, like, "Come on, don't be so chicken-shit. Are you my son or my daughter?"
If there is an afterlife, I hope he got to kick his dad in his non-corporeal nuts on the other side.
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yogarfield - 2023-06-25 I believe he was 19, so I highly doubt that he wasn't fully on-board. That's enough time to live with the presumption that the world owes you everything, including the bottom of the ocean.
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MacGyver Style Bomb - 2023-06-23
The sub looks like it was designed and built by one of the engineering classes from one of the middle schools or high schools I sometimes pick up work at. The same classes that build battlebots or try to make hovercrafts. Right down to the use of off the shelf parts and usb game controllers.
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Cena_mark - 2023-06-23 The interior of the sub is so empty, just a few Ipads. Compare that to the interior of Alvin, the first submarine to reach the Titanic.
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Nominal - 2023-06-24 When you design your sub on Craigslist
***SEEKING PASSIONATE, HUNGRY YOUNG GRADS FOR DREAM SUB PROJECT*** (no pay)
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Nominal - 2023-06-23
Can we start a "dumbasses not worth rescuing" week?
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Nominal - 2023-06-23 Just put a cave diving one in the hopper.
It really is fascinating how many "jesus christ TURN BACK wtf is wrong with you?" dangerous moments there were, completely ignored by daredevil assholes who surprise ended up dying.
The only tragic part is the wasted rescue efforts, with one rescuer being severely injured.
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cognitivedissonance - 2023-06-23 "Rules don't apply to me, I'm rich!" is probably the #1 way rich people die, every single time. The Edsel Ford Principle.
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cognitivedissonance - 2023-06-23
LEGIT CONVO I JUST HAD:
PERSON: Why are you mocking them? They're people too.
ME: No, a billionaire is not a person.
PERSON: Of course they are.
ME: They can quit any time they want.
PERSON: ....
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Nominal - 2023-06-23 Don't you realize how much they donated to CHARITY? How much of YOUR networth have you donated to charity?
Stop dehumanizing billionaires. That's all BNP propaganda. ;_;
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Nominal - 2023-06-24 When I feed the poor, they call me a saint.
When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist.
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Nominal - 2023-06-24 When I ask why all that food money went to billionaires, some douche accuses me of engaging in British antisemitism.
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BHWW - 2023-06-23
"I'd like to be remembered as an innovator. I think it was Gen McArthur that said, "You're remembered for the rules you break."
"I have broken some rules to make this. I think I've broken them with logic and good engineering behind me. The carbon fibre and titanium there is a rule that you don't do that. Well, I did", Stockton said, referring to a combination of two materials that can cause a galvanic corrosion.
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This CEO seemed to fancy himself as some kind of Steve Jobs entrepreneur, thinking that he was going to change the face of sea exploration by innovating and hiring hungry college grads to do the work. It really does seem like he should have had a few industry experts and seasoned veterans in there to keep an eye on things.
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SolRo - 2023-06-23 I wish more of these pompous messiah-complex CEOs would get killed by their creations.
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Robin Kestrel - 2023-06-23
Pogue said he was nervous before boarding and revealed some of the contents of the waiver form he was required to sign. This described the submarine as an “experimental submersible vessel that has not been approved or certified by any regulatory body and could result in physical injury, disability, emotional trauma or death.”
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Crackersmack - 2023-06-23
the asshole that owned this company was trying to make low cost submersibles for the oil drilling industry, but they aren't interested in untested substandard bullshit, so the Titanic visits were a proof of concept
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Cena_mark - 2023-06-23 I wonder how many trips that sub took down to the Titanic. I'm assuming they declared it sea worthy after a few trips up and down from those depths, but didn't take into account the damage caused by repeated dives.
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SolRo - 2023-06-23 I’m sure the many lawsuits will find out if they were actually stupid or just greedy to the point of risking their own lives to dupe the richies
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yogarfield - 2023-06-24 @cena https://youtu.be/TKLamhyJ6bE
Pretty thorough breakdown by an engineer.
@SolRo In this vid there is footage of them literally signing their life away (and joking about it), and they had that paperwork in place because the only thing airtight at Ocean Gate is their legal defense.
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SolRo - 2023-06-24 Some countries do allow assisted suicide but most don’t allow companies to shield themselves from negligence via waivers
And clearly there was a lot of negligence involved in this
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Cena_mark - 2023-06-25 Thanks, Yogarfield. Good video. Validates my suspicion that going from extreme pressures and back weakens the sub over time.
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John Holmes Motherfucker - 2023-06-25
I've been thinking about this, and I believe that, for me, a chance to see the Titanic in front of my eyes might be worth the risk, certainly more than anything else I can think of, including going to the moon. You climb Everest so you can say that you did it, but to actually SEE Titanic would be something to really experience. For about 40 per cent of my lifetime, the Titanic was lost, and because of corrosion, it's going to be lost again. It's steeped in tragedy and
To me this feels like a legitimate thing to risk your life for. I don't think of it as a darwin award. I think of it as making a high stakes bet, and losing. I just hope they took the time to READ those releases. They were probably a good idea.
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SolRo - 2023-06-25 I’d agree with you if that waiver included
“DONT WASTE MILLIONS OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS LOOKING FOR OUR JELLIFIED CORPSES IF ANYTHING GOES WRONG”
That’s the real issue here, that we have to subsidize the dangerous hobbies of rich assholes, who don’t pay their fair share anyhow!
This shit should get charged to their estate
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Cena_mark - 2023-06-25 The real heroes here are the US and Canadian Coast Guards.
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John Holmes Motherfucker - 2023-06-26 Millions for rescue, zero for recovery.
My understanding is that they stopped searching when there was no hope.
It's all very sad, but my heart will go on.
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SolRo - 2023-06-26 They didn’t stop, they’re just using less ships because it’s just recovery now
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SolRo - 2023-06-26 And anyhow, same issue with rescue
They can afford the bill but it’s the taxpayers who have to pay for it
Privatized gain, socialized risk.
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yogarfield - 2023-06-26 Honestly, which is lamer? Paying hundreds of thousands of dollars to cosplay as a submarine explorer, or paying hundreds of thousands of dollars to have a group of sherpas carry your gear?
Answer: Both.
To give you a headline of the level of twattery of all of them, the headline today is "19-year-old who died on Titanic sub brought a Rubik's Cube with him in a bid to break the world record". Who gives a fuck?
I seriously think he was going for "Deepest Rubik's Cube Solve", because I looked up the times and he's not even close to the record.
So fun fact: There's some colored cubes down there in the vanity wreck.
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