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Desc:Jim Cramer Vs Jon Stewart or Adult vs 13 year old boy caught egging a house
Category:News & Politics
Tags:Jon Stewart, lies, the daily show, Jim Cramer, Grilling
Submitted:Chet
Date:03/13/09
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Comment count is 56
Chet - 2009-03-13
Wow. Wow. Wow.
Aelric - 2009-03-13
I haven't seen a good ol' fashioned crucifixion in a long time time. On a comedy show, no less. You know our media is fucked when comedy is becoming the watchdog. This...well, maybe I'm a little too hopeful, but this could have some fallout.
RockBolt - 2009-03-13
I too was in a hotel and read the pre-show article yesterday in my free US Today, they speculated that Cramer's career is potentially on the line with NBC, and Cramer sure looked scared enough to believe it

Aelric - 2009-03-13
Look, I know it was hyped to hell, but I like the idea of something coming from this. I'm aware enough that I don't expect it to happen, but it's still a nice thought. Do you want to rob me of that? Huh? Do ya?

Rovin - 2009-03-13
The way NBC/Universal was bouncing Cramer from show to show to show across the various networks, I doubt Cramer's career is in danger quite yet. They've been playing this up for publicity from the beginning.

fatatty - 2009-03-13
It's not impossible something could come from this. Cramer said at the end that he would consider doing a more serious version of his show.

And Crossfire just happened to get canceled after Jon Stewart came on and did a very similar skewering of their show.

When Jon Stewart calls you out, people listen. Sad as that is.

HarveyTibbar - 2009-03-13
I think it's apparent that Cramer didn't expect this kind of treatment.

And if Cramer didn't expect it, I don't think his CNBC bosses expected it either. This went a completely different direction than ANYONE suspected. There might be a reevaluation of Cramer's place in CNBC's world.

James Woods - 2009-03-14
Cramer was on the ropes the whole time. His body language shouting pleas at Jon to loosen-up. Jim Cramer was begging for applause from the audience, practically shouting for mercy through his bloodied teeth! (which he'd later need to count).

I had a horrifying vision of him accidently falling off of his chair, tipping him gently off the cliff of sanity. His reputation unthreading, everything he's become spilling away on to the floor of the studio as he picks himself up to run into the audience and take a hostage.

Seriously though. I don't know if anyone else saw it like this, but just as they cut away to the infamouse 2:12, Jim appears to be on the verge of tears. Real tears. Man tears... Man tears :(

You'll notice that they go straight from the clip to commercial. My speculation is that he asked them for a moment. I'd love to hear a review from someone who was in the studio to see if he burst into tears. I picture security wrestling a pistol from his hand in the green room.

Spoonybard - 2009-03-13
Comedy Central won't play videos for people outside the US. Alternate source?
Aelric - 2009-03-13
Really? I'm in Korea and I get my videos straight from the daily show's site. Where are you? maybe they just hate Canadians or something.

Wonko the Sane - 2009-03-13
A Canadian network carries Stewart so CC is probably contractually obligated to cock-block us canucks. I'm guessing that Korea doesn't have a network carrying it, so they can access the feeds.

We can get Stewart feeds from comedynetwork.ca but this piece isn't up yet.

If anyone has a youtube or a transcript, could they please post?

Wonko the Sane - 2009-03-13
Found this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B96vUHKN_I4

Billie_Joe_Buttfuck - 2009-03-13
Was that everything?

'Cause that was fucking cool.

Really fucking cool.

Wonko the Sane - 2009-03-13
I don't think so, the stuff I've read says it was a "two segment piece" which to me implies a commercial break between grillings.
Unfortunately we'll have to wait for comedy network to update their clips to be sure.

boner - 2009-03-13
Dear Canadians, the Comedy Network streams full episodes.

http://watch.thecomedynetwork.ca/the-daily-show-with-jon-stewa rt/full-episodes/march-12-2009/#clip147736

Meerkat - 2009-03-13
So does CTV.CA, in the "videos" section.

dubz - 2009-03-13
This is glorious.
NineEleven - 2009-03-13
catharsis is fun but pointless
Camonk - 2009-03-13
Not with The Daily Show as big as it fucking is, and everybody watching this. I do doubt Cramer will change his tune very much, despite offering to. It'd be cool if he did, though, right? But this could have actual consequences. After all, TDS has shown itself willing to point like a laser at a person or group and burn and burn and burn.

Rovin - 2009-03-13
Well, how can you call it "Mad Money" if Cramer's not acting... you know, mad? Maybe go for the angry definition instead?

IrishWhiskey - 2009-03-13
It would still work, just with the other meaning of 'mad'.

kamlem - 2009-03-13
During the week I went to see my parents and they showed me what has happened to their invested life savings over the last year (minimum risk superannuation). I felt physically ill. My folks could have been burgled of everything in their entire house and it would not have come close to what these idiots have wrought.

To paraphrase Winston Churchill, never has so much been owed by so few to so many.
dueserpenti - 2009-03-13
When was the point in Jon Stewart's life where he said, "Well, I'd prefer to be a comedian, but the world needs a straight-talking, take-no-prisoners motherfucking hero, so I guess I'll do my part."

Of course, it shows the fucked up nature of the world I live in that notions like simple honesty and a desire to do right by people by bringing them the truth are considered heroic.
CornOnTheCabre - 2009-03-13
on one hand this all needed to be said

on the other hand, i think that Cramer not seeing this coming is totally within the realm of his own incompetence, and i almost feel bad for him for taking all this heat
CornOnTheCabre - 2009-03-13
also, my GOD does a studio audience make this 10 times more awkward. forget catharsis, this is intellectual snuff.

longwinded - 2009-03-13
There's one point at which Stewart says, "But this isn't a f**king game!" That's the thing that needed to be said - these analysts and talking heads understand that their own situations have worsened, but they really don't comprehend their own role in creating the situation, and that's what John Stewart was trying to communicate.

That's what makes Stewart's interviews the best - he's actually trying to communicate with his interviewees.

fatatty - 2009-03-13
An audience clapping at solid intellectual arguments is a wonderful sound, even if it somewhat feels like it cheapens the debate. Almost makes you wonder what the world would be like if people cheered and booed for important things more than who threw the ball through the hoop.

CornOnTheCabre - 2009-03-14
the irony of someone with your screenname posting that is most certainly not lost on me.

HarveyTibbar - 2009-03-13
It's awe-inspiring how the court jester can handle skewering a man's character and actions with grim sincerity and grace simultaneously.

I take back everything I ever thought about Jon Stewart when he replaced Craig Kilborne.
IrishWhiskey - 2009-03-13
I have to keep stopping and taking breaks as I'm watching it. It is both painful and awesome.
takewithfood - 2009-03-13
It was so awkward that I found myself pacing in and out of the kitchen. I did that the first time I watched the Office, too - it says something (at least to me) that the pitiful cracks in Cramer's voice caused the same reaction as a Ricky Gervais' character.

Louis Armstrong - 2009-03-13
Best ass kicking ever without a punch being thrown. God bless John Stewart for staying on target with the original point of this whole "week long brawl"
Xenocide - 2009-03-13
"It's....phantasmagorical! (impotent stutter)"

God, Cramer is backpedaling so hard he could win the Bizzaro Tour De France
kennydra - 2009-03-13
Hm, I like that phrase.

raeshaldis - 2009-03-13
Come on Cramer, this guy's just a "comedian" with a variety show.

It's like Stewart lured him into this trap by not taking it seriously until he had Cramer right in front of him and then... bam!
Rovin - 2009-03-13
What I expected: Lots of clips of CNBC bad calls, hype bullshit, so forth.

What I got: Video clips of Cramer Cramer probably didn't want anyone to ever see.

Stewart and crew were laserlike with this.
Johnny Madhouse - 2009-03-13
Evisceration.

Cramer was squealing like a pig.
Tuan Jim - 2009-03-13
Man, those clips with Cramer advising lying to investors and the public to drive up profits are amazing.


Comeuppance - 2009-03-13
The tone in Cramer's voice led me to believe he was on the edge of tears, and was ready to do anything to have the skewer removed from him.

Surreal.
Anti-Pope - 2009-03-13
There was definitely palpable fear in that voice.

Scrotum H. Vainglorious - 2009-03-13
The guy seems like he has some issues going on with himself. Bipolar? I dunno but after this I wouldn't be surprised if he put a gun to his head.

Comeuppance - 2009-03-13
All Jon would have to do is ask.

"Maybe you should try a serious show."
"HEY, SURE THING! I'LL DO THAT!"

Subprime spinal fortitude.

Ahriman the Creepy Lurker - 2009-03-13
That whole unedited interview was glorious--I wasn't sure if I wanted to watch it with a bag of popcorn or some lotion and a box of tissues.

Fuck is it ever nice to see actual journalism every now and then.
Lauritz Melchior - 2009-03-13
I really admire Jon Stewart's ability to express the concerns of average people so eloquently and so unapologetically.
Keefu - 2009-03-13
Fffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuucccck
Corman's Inferno - 2009-03-13
Do they just dump amnesia drugs in the water at CNBC or what?
Ape-Devil - 2009-03-13
This is like watching a more careful and meticulous variant of the rape scene from Deliverance only less piq-squealing and more making-shit-up-to-save-face-squealing.
Simian Pride - 2009-03-13
So good I favorited it four times!

Ape-Devil - 2009-03-13
The guy is seemingly on the edge of crying but he pushes it back, all the while trying to explain how he wasn't really a irresponsible douchebag.

Brutal!

Stog - 2009-03-13
Goddamn.
Mister Yuck - 2009-03-13
I feel bad for Cramer because he really, really deserved this. He knew it going in, you can see it in his face, you can hear it in his voice, he knew he was going to get his just deserts.

He doesn't deserve mercy but I can't help but give him pity.
Mayberry Pancakes - 2009-03-13
I like Cramer's should-be-mock-horror at "Oh no, not 2:12!" when he really is terrified.
Oldmacho - 2009-03-13
One of my favorite tricks of Stewart's is managing to appear the most rational and composed person in a debate whilst dropping F-bombs left and right.
theSnake - 2009-03-13
Cramer spent the entire interview looking like he wished he had a pistol to put in his mouth.
godot - 2009-03-16
I know I'm late to this party, but Jim Cramer has been a joke and a clown to individual investors for 8 years now. There are sites that track his record and frankly it is statistically identical to the general market.

Many of us dread his attention being directed to our securities, and will even sell stocks touted on his show because his audience is fast-money: they are looking for quick gains and are easily disappointed. There are shorters looking to rape his audience. In industries I'm personally very familiar with, his preferential selections make no sense: he advises buys and sells on a story, not on quantitative data. He doesn't have 2000 stocks in his mind, but 2000 stories.

That said, Cramer is not a monster. He's just hyperactive, solidly Democrat Ivy Leaguer journalist that got caught up in Wall St 30 years ago. He's got anger control problems, as evidenced by the expose on his hedge fund (he liked throwing keyboards at traders). But he hasn't done a tenth as much harm as quant analysts and institutional traders at places like AIG.
CornOnTheCabre - 2009-03-20
this

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