|Pillager - 2011-06-15 |
This is the best they can muster?
What's going to erupt from the GOP clown car next?
|IrishWhiskey - 2011-06-15 |
"Let me be very on the question: I was asked if I would be comfortable around Muslims, not if I would appoint one."
Okay, but if anything that sounds more racist.
"And the reason is I was thinking about Muslims trying to kill us."
Now the actual question asked doesn't matter? And again, that just sounds more racist.
"I do not believe in sharia law in American courts."
So by "let me be clear" you meant "let me pretend it was a totally different question"?
The question asked was "Would you be comfortable appointing a Muslim in your cabinet or as a federal judge". His answer was "No. I will not." And then he went on for several minutes about why he would never appoint a Muslim:
So his answer is a completely lie, and his fabricated explanation still makes no sense. He's claiming he meant "I was thinking of American-killing terrorist Muslims, so I would appoint them, I just wouldn't be comfortable around them."
|Caminante Nocturno - 2011-06-15 |
It would have sounded less racist if he'd just kept his mouth shut.
He can't be racist, he's black.
Islam isn't a race (though he's obviously using it as a euphemism for 'dirty ayrabs')
A traditional ploy of conservative minorities is to point a finger at a group that people will hate or distrust more, like Muslims. It's also how corporations break up unions, and how fascist regimes muster support from the bottom up. There's always someone to hate, distrust, or fear. That's the conservative way.
Baleen, That is not how conservatives work. Cain is a fringe candidate anyways, plus the distrust of Muslims is nothing new. I didn't see Obama putting any Muslims in cabinet positions.
I thought Obama was a Muslim. Come on man, think before you post.
Cena, you're invoking what's called the "no true Scotsman" fallacy. You can't argue that the current conservative-oriented party, the GOP, isn't using fear of gays, Mexicans, Muslims, atheists, or any number of other small groups to try and scare its base into keeping it in power. If you saw the rest of the candidates (especially Bachmann), you'd know this; they only vary in how virulent they are in their rhetoric.
|Old_Zircon - 2011-06-15 |
I haven't watched this yet, is The Undertaker in it too?
|StanleyPain - 2011-06-15 |
This guy is a fucking clown, but:
Muslims aren't a race. There are Muslims in virtually every country comprised of many races. Maybe someday this will penetrate and we can start growing the fuck up and not equating criticism of Islam with racism. (which is like saying that being critical against Catholicism is being racist against Italians)
Yes, religious discrimination is probably a better term to use than racism. But a more apropos analogy would be refusing to serve Italians, and saying it's because you hate Catholics. The fact that the person is ignorant or mistaken about where most Catholics are from doesn't make him not racist. And Cain's discriminatory policies are bigotry, regardless of whether it's coupled with otherwise legitimate criticism of the ideology. When the discrimination comes in the form of taking away rights of other people based on looks and ancestry, racism is still involved.
AntiSemite? AntiPapist? Use your words, People.
Seriously. The words like racism and racist are extremely abused and overused. Takeawayfood, religious discrimination is the best word we have for this, but people like Irish Whiskey are lazy and like to throw the R-Bomb everywhere, because they don't care who they slander.
|Rodents of Unusual Size - 2011-06-15 |
What I meant was I did not mean that thing I said, except that I did.
|Jet Bin Fever - 2011-06-15 |
Well, if he takes the "only peaceful religions need apply" stance, I guess he'll enjoy not having a staff.
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