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Desc:Gibby shoots a shotgun over the crowd and I'm not at all sure it's firing blanks.
Category:Arts, Stunts
Tags:guns, 90s, butthole surfers, Chaos, Generation X
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Old_Zircon - 2014-11-19

What is this thing?

I didn't type it in the description.

I don't even know HOW to type it.

But there it is.

Old_Zircon - 2014-11-19

baleen - 2014-11-19
And so it begins.

Old_Zircon - 2014-11-19
By "description" I meant "Title," of course.

infinite zest - 2014-11-19
I googled it and it looks like it's a Tibetan letter. Maybe you were channeling all the people at Lollapalloza with Free Tibet t-shirts who couldn't point to Tibet on a map.

Old_Zircon - 2014-11-19
Oh man, it was a while ago now (maybe about a decade) but I was at a show of live music and short films at Mass Art and one of the filmmakers had just finished a documentary that he ha shot in Tibet over the course of about a year, most of which he spent living in rural areas with locals. He said that across the board nearly everyone he talked to that had any opinion at all was pretty unhappy with the West's whole "FREE TIBET" thing because there was a consistent,direct correlation between US media talking about Tibet and the Chinese government cracking down on Tibetan citizens. Basically, China would rather the rest of the world forget that Tibet exists and the more attention it's given here the more they put the boot down to quell dissent internally and discourage people from talking to Westerners about their situation. Most of the people he encountered just wanted to go about their lives and have the Chinese government leave them alone, so there was a lot of bitterness about FREE TIBET white folks perennially screwing that up.

At least according to that one guy's experience.

Monkey Napoleon - 2014-11-19
Sounds about right.

I think I mentioned this before on here years ago. I saw them opening up for White Zombie (it might have been Rob Zombie by then) way back, and that was the worst concert I ever saw. The lead singer was clearly blackout drunk, and could barely manage to stand up or mumble out a few words. The entire crowd just kind of stared in disbelief for the 30 minutes or so they were on.

And then there's Zombie, who I know realize is terrible. Here's my impression of what he's like live:

Yeah, I am the astro
A demo
Hell americ..., yeah
I am the crawl
Old_Zircon - 2014-11-19
BHS were like an archetypal case of signing to a major label and turning into garbage almost overnight. The first two major albums were passable because one was recorded before they were signed and the other was produced by John Paul Jones and he kept it from completely sucking. But even those are a far cry from their 80s stuff.

I'd say take a look at the lineup and if they have two drummers it's almost guaranteed to be good but if they only have one, watch out.

Gibby ran a music clinic for children in Boston a few ears back.

Old_Zircon - 2014-11-19
Those two drummers absolutely made the band.

infinite zest - 2014-11-19
I went to Lollapalooza on the 4th of July in 1995. That's the only reason why I like the Thomas Jefferson Slave Apartments so much. Other than that, yeah, the crowd was horrible.

Old_Zircon - 2014-11-19
I've come to like a lot of rock music from this period in retrospect but by the time 1992 rolled around I'd written off pretty much anything that made it to MTV as manufactured corporate bullshit and I wasn't totally wrong in a simplistic, 14 year old way.

infinite zest - 2014-11-19
The main stage was just packed, so instead of seeing Sonic Youth I saw Blonde Redhead and it kinda blew my mind. I think they were playing at the same time as Sonic Youth and are named after one of their songs.

EvilHomer - 2014-11-19
My stars are for your impression of Mr Zombie. As someone who has also seen Rob live, that impression is SPOT ON.

The go-go dancers and the backdrops and the giant-head wearing midgets were all cool, but fuck, by the time he was a solo act he literally could not sing more than three words without pausing for breath.

EvilHomer - 2014-11-19
You know his bitch wife beat up a bunch of little kids and took their skate park away from them, right?

Monkey Napoleon - 2014-11-19
Now that you mention it, yeah... and also I sort of vaguely remember learning it either here or on poe red.

But no, I didn't remember that. I just remember her being one of the topless go-go dancers at the show.

EvilHomer - 2014-11-19
I posted some videos of the Woodbury Affair last year; apparently his wife browbeat him into filing a noise complaint against a local skatepark populated almost entirely by cute-faced young scamps and plucky little orphans. I know one of his neighbors, too - it's a real yuppie section of town, even by Connecticut standards, but I guess having smelly townie children doing their skateboard shenanigans a few hundred yards away from their nice new Leave It To Beaver mansion was a BIT TOO MUCH for the Zombies.

And yes, Sherri was one of his topless go-go dancers. That's how they met; it's sort of a touching story, really.

Kabbage - 2014-11-19
It was this:


Featuring spikestoyiu's amazing comment.

Seven Arts/H8 Red - 2014-11-19
Re: Thomas Jefferson Slave Apartments: it still amazes me that Rick Rubin weaned Johan Kugelberg away from Matador, and let Kugelberg release stuff like TJSA and Jim Shepard's V.3 on his Onion Records imprint. I guess the conceit was that shit Kugelberg dug complemented American Recordings' "rebel" image. Didn't last long, but not complaining that Onion happened.

kingarthur - 2014-11-19
Steven Severin's described them (regarding Lollapalooza) as one of the few other bands on the tour to have been around the music business long enough to be cynical. A lot of the others, except maybe Ice-T and Ministry, were just starry-eyed.
Old_Zircon - 2014-11-19
That cynicism i why I can forgive them their post 1990, MTV friendly stuffbecasue fuck it, Gibby's got to retire on something. There's a certain kind of unpretentious selling out that doesn't bother me. Willie Nelson did it, Snoop and Dre did it, ZZ Top did it, Zappa sort of did it in the late 70s, Danzig efinitely id it, yet they managed to more or less keep their integrity and in a way so did the BHS even though personally I find their post-sellout stuff disappointing. If I were 10 years older Eliminator would have probably disgusted me and I've met plenty of old hippies who won't acknowledge that Zappa did anything of any value starting with X album (usually either Fillmore East or Sheik Yerbouti depending on how old they are), and there's probably some reprobate out there who doesn't like Stardust but fuck that guy.

Old_Zircon - 2014-11-19
Oh and pretty much everything Devo did but that's kind of different because irony still worked back then.

EvilHomer - 2014-11-19

Frankly, as far as I'm concerned, I have no problems with you selling out and retiring happy, just so long as you don't pull a Metallica. You keep below the bar Lars and Co set, and we cool yo.

poorwill - 2014-11-19
Some people do their best work as sellouts. Blondie, for instance.

Rodents of Unusual Size - 2014-11-19
Oh 90s

also I just remembered this skit, which is a pretty good sendup of MTV during that period.

infinite zest - 2014-11-19
Haha that show was better than I remembered it being. I didn't watch it because besides the Spy v. Spy and Don Martin animations, I didn't see what it had to do with MAD. I had the same problem with The State. Because it wasn't music! Looking back at the 90s, what did the 90s have to do with anything?

Rodents of Unusual Size - 2014-11-19
The 90s were about:

* people being nihilistic without really knowing why
* awful, awful clothes
* including ugly shoes that kids would literally kill for
* the apex and death of the sitcom
* general directionlessness of an entire generation, either politically or philosophically
* zines
* people not having any idea how bad things would get after the 90s

infinite zest - 2014-11-19
The 10s are about:

* people being nihilistic without really knowing why
* awful, awful clothes
* including ugly shoes that kids would literally kill for
* the apex and death of the sitcom
* general directionlessness of an entire generation, either politically or philosophically
* zines
* people not having any idea how bad things would get after the 10s

infinite zest - 2014-11-19
Maybe poe should build a bomb proof shelter just in case. We each get to invite one poe celebrity. Dibs on Fedsmoker!

Stopheles - 2014-11-19
I wish I had video of the Bad Seeds at the Saratoga Lollapalooza from 94 (?). As the band put on their instruments and got ready to start playing, Nick Cave looked out at the audience, then back to the band and said into the mic "hey, look, another ten thousand Beastie Boys fans." He then faced away from the stage for most of the show.
Gmork - 2014-11-19
They're not observing the proper safety procedures.

They should be wearing eye protection while shooting over the crowd.
Scrotum H. Vainglorious - 2014-11-19
Beavis and Butthead were the only good thing in the 90s.
Old_Zircon - 2014-11-19
Dr. Katz, MST3k, PoE Red and a lot of the best Sun City Girls albums.

Also the MIT LSD lab was still running back then, not that I reaped any benefit from it.

infinite zest - 2014-11-20
I used to like this show called Bomb TV that ran on cable access in the 90s. They played stuff like Pussy Galore and Jesus Lizard and even Dead Moon and the Wipers all the time. Now kids can just get on pitchfork, maximumrockandroll, you name it it's Shazam-able. And that's not a bad thing, but I wouldn't trade the modern convenience for my hours of trying to figure out what that band I just heard was.

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