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Desc:Public TV panel discussion from 1990, with Mark Frost.
Category:Classic TV Clips, Educational
Tags:tv, twin peaks, TV history, mark frost, Public TV
Submitted:John Holmes Motherfucker
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chumbucket - 2015-04-07
I liked Twin Peaks back then but oh man I could only "stick around" for the first 12 minutes.

Little David Lynch "look-a-like"??? She needs better glasses.
John Holmes Motherfucker - 2015-04-07
I think she means this kid.


John Holmes Motherfucker - 2015-04-07
I never thought this would make it out of the hopper alive. By itself, it's not exactly scintillating television, but it evokes the cultural-historical moment that Twin Peaks was born into. Right now, we're living in a golden age of television. Of course, there's a certain amount of crap on all these channels, and there's stuff like "Here Comes Honey Boo Boo", which defies evaluation. ( "Honey Boo Boo" is like a Faulkner novel in which every character is Benjy.) But there's plenty of great TV.

In 1990, there wasn't. TV in general was exactly like these people describe it. And Twin Peaks was a seminal moment, hugely important. It's direct influence is still out there. I mean, consider AMC's "Fargo". How about "True Detective"?
Juice Eggs McKenna - 2015-04-08
They lucked out to an extent and became a popular fad which burnt out pretty fast, but their influence was significant. Not always a good show, but a definitely an important show.

Like the old saying about how not many people bought Pixies records but everyone who did started a band.

John Holmes Motherfucker - 2015-04-07
By the way, in case anyone doesn't know, the entire Twin Peaks series is available on Hulu. I've been watching it with my friend, Cynthia, who is seeing it for the first time. I have Hulu Plus, but I think you can get it on Hulu Standard.

It looks amazing beamed onto my friend's HD TV with ChromeCast. (This definitely requires Hulu Plus)Back in the day, I used to watch Twin Peaks on VHS tapes recorded at SLP or whatever was the lowest speed.

Oh, and if I may digress just a little more, I'm just blown away by the resolution on those old Star Trek TOS episodes.
Dr. Lobotomy - 2015-04-07
So anyone looking forward to(or dreading) the upcoming 2016 continuation of the series?
John Holmes Motherfucker - 2015-04-07
Both, I guess. I'm hopeful, but the movie was a huge disappointment.

I hope Lara Flynn Boyle comes back. These days, she's a hideous victim of bad plastic surgery. She'd be perfect.

Adham Nu'man - 2015-04-07
Lynch just pulled out from the project, which seems to be going on without him. Not looking good.

infinite zest - 2015-04-07
I was interested, but now that Lynch is pulling out, I dunno. Twin Peaks was a very important show for me: I was 8 years old when it was on, and we watched it because we'd take family trips up to Snoqualmie, Washington all the time in the Summer. For my parents, it was super amusing, and it was a cool "hey I've been there" thing for me. I didn't revisit the series until sometime in my mid-20s, and by that time its influence was so big on other shows and movies that I had a hard time getting super into it, and always felt like I missed out when it was something new.

So it's kind of like another one of my favorite shows, the X-Files. The part of me that wants Vince Gilligan to reboot it after Better Call Saul is over is the same part that's skeptical. And yeah, in both cases the movies sucked.

John Holmes Motherfucker - 2015-04-07
Discouraging, but I hope it's still on.

You know what I'd love to see? Frost doing the creating and developing, and Lynch directing two or three key episodes.

Scrimmjob - 2015-04-07
The movie was pretty weak, but I liked Chris Issak's part, and some other bits and pieces. If they have Mark Frost on board the new series could end up being good, there are plenty of different ways they could go with the story, considering how much weird shit was going on at the end of the original series. There was no definite end in place, the only thing you know for sure is that Cooper is possessed by Killer Bob. I will probably watch it even if it is shit.

John Holmes Motherfucker - 2015-04-07
I'd watch a fan-produced Twin Peaks. I'll certainly watch a Mark Frost Twin Peaks. Twin Peaks being what it is, there are an infinite number of ways it could be good, and an infinite number of ways that it could be bad. If it's better than the movie, I'll be happy.

StanleyPain - 2015-04-07
I was a big Twin Peaks fan, but ultimately it is a very divided show. The first season was a direct collaboration between Lynch and Frost, thus the weird tone between being surreal and Lynchian and being a straight forward drama/procedural type thing (the Frost influence). Lynch was barely involved with the second season, and Frost took up most of the production and co-writing duties and so you'll notice the tone is much more straightforward. There's weirdness, but it feels like someone imitating Lynch rather than Lynch supplying the ideas. That's not to say season 2 is bad...but I think that a new revisitation of the show really needs that Lynch/Frost feel to it. If he is not going to be directly involved (he's citing budgetary reasons that Showtime basically wants the show produced for a lot less than the average network series gets), I have my doubts it will be any good.

Bisekrankas - 2015-04-07
Why dont they just crowdfund the difference to get the funds Lynch asked for?. Showtime does not have to spend more than they feel they can afford, the fans get new episodes and Lynch gets to do the show the way he wants, everyone wins.

Aelric - 2015-04-07
I'd like to point out, as many people lump all of season two in as the "bad season", that the killer isn't revealed until half way through that season, and Lynch was involved up to that point, and the first half of the second season was just as good as the first season. It wasn't until after the killer was revealed that the show turned into a huge slog with the false, imitated Lynch weirdness that StanlyPain mentions.

I understand why. The first season ended with the fire, which was actually a fairly small event comparatively, while the killer being revealed was the middle of the second, which would have made for a better season finale (or series finale, considering where it went afterwards).

I'll still through love for that last episode's Black Lodge footage, too. That was Lynch coming back and saying 'Fuck it, let's make a student film"

Two Jar Slave - 2015-04-08
I liked more of the movie than not, mainly because it dealt with Leland's molestation of his daughter in a more grown-up way than "an evil fairy made me do it." It tried to give some weight and discomfort to Laura's horrible life, which the show had basically avoided doing by making her out to be an evil seductress and puppet-master. So the movie was a massive departure from the show, obviously, and unsatisfying from a plot perspective, but I appreciated the angle it was trying to take. "Oh, that's right, at the bottom of all this lovable quirky adventure there's a girl whose life was ruined long before she was beaten to death." I suspect that if you tried to make such a smarmy, fun-loving series based on the same premise nowadays, you'd be written off as callous and disrespectful. So maybe Fire Walk With Me was Lynch's way of trying to respect the material a little more? I don't know if that's what he was thinking, but I liked it.

That said, my hopes are pretty low for a continuation. I can't imagine it'll be ten minutes before Dale says, "Damn good coffee!" and a midget dances. Like the Star Wars prequels, its cultural footprint is too big and cartoonish to satisfy anyone. But you never know.

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