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Desc:'What's wrong with Jeb Bush?' he asked. 'This a mental thing, isn't it?'
Category:News & Politics, Humor
Tags:Iraq, republicans, GOP, Joe Scarborough, Jeb Bush
Submitted:Pillager
Date:05/14/15
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Comment count is 13
simon666
Is it unfair to assume that Jeb Bush feels conflicted for same reason his brother was intent on invading Iraq, that Saddam Hussein tried to his daddy?
Bort
I don't even think that's why Bush was so keen on Iraq. His reason was ... all the kick ass presidents are known for winning wars, and Bush wanted to be a kick ass president. That's right, he wanted to sit at the figurative cool kids' table.

Jeb answered as he did because, like many lifelong sleazy salesmen, he doesn't tell "the truth" so much as "whatever is likely to mollify the customer", and he miscalculated this time. He thought he could lubricate his way into a nonadmission of wrongdoing on his family's part, and it didn't work.

Lori Klausutis remains dead.

StanleyPain
The Bush Administration was "keen" on Iraq because it had been the Republican plan to somehow oust Hussein and establish military presence there for years and years. The Project For A New American Century (which you're not supposed to talk about) already laid the groundwork for how this would be done by exaggerating a world threat from Iraq to drum up popular support.

Bort
Cheney, Rumsfeld, and others were part of PNAC. Dubya wasn't, though, as far as I know.

I don't hold that Bush's motives were the same as Cheney's or Rumsfeld's.

Old_Zircon
You guys think the President actually decides this stuff.

EvilHomer
I have to admit, compared to Hillary, those quotes make Jeb seem almost human. I don't believe him, of course, but it takes a big man to admit that you don't want to be disrespectful to the dead.

OZ raises a valid point. Americans ascribe far too much importance to their president; this is partly because our schools and the media condition us to think that way, constantly holding him up for us as the living symbol of America, source of our wealth or our ruin. In reality, while the President enjoys a lot of clout (far more than any of us will ever have), he is just one man amongst many, the public face draped over top of a complex drama, that is largely outside of "the hero's" control.

https://youtu.be/mxLBywKrTf4?t=43m19s

I'd be inclined to agree with Bort's assessment of Bush. Dubya never seemed to have the vision of his father or of his more competent underlings, Cheney and Rove. Dubya was at best a Robert Baratheon figure; Rove and Cheney, Varys and Little Finger.

Grandmaster Funk
If you even believed for a split second that "respecting the dead" was anything other than a vapid, cynical attempt to exploit dead troops to defuse a catastrophic gaffe, you're dumber than Jeb is.

If it's "disrespectful to the dead" to talk about a war, that would have been his first answer, not his fumbling last resort. And by declaring his answer potentially disrespectful, he's implicitly answering the question. Presumably as a Bush scumbag he would not hesitate to cheerlead any war that wasn't a complete shitshow.

Kabbage
Could they possibly make Jeb less appealing
TheOtherCapnS
Only by not comparing him to all the other wack jobs the Republicans are fielding so far.

EvilHomer
I've been trying to find that clip from The Simpsons, where Krusty is running for Congress and Fox News draws devil horns over his televised debate opponent. I can't find it, so just pretend I posted it here, in order to illustrate the concept of blatant media bias.


How many people are left in Washington who actually opposed the Iraq War? Or at least, opposed the Iraq War, and continued to oppose the Iraq War, even when it was no longer in their own vested interest to turn hawk? Now that Ron Paul and Russ Feingold are gone, the only person I can think of is Bernie Sanders, and there's no way in a hell a Socialist like him will win the election.
Bort
Feingold's running for his old Senate again. Here's hoping he isn't too proud to take some campaign money this time.

I like that he's principled, but get into office first, THEN use your office to change the law.

Sexy Duck Cop
The episode was "Sideshow Bob Roberts," and it was a local news station drawing a circle of fire over Mayor Quimby while he debated Sideshow Bob.

EvilHomer
Ooooh, maybe that's why I couldn't find it. I was searching it, and Simpsons Wiki wanted to direct me to a late-season episode which ripped off that same bit from before.

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