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Desc:New video from the guys who made Busted! A Citizen's Guide to Surviving Police Encounters
Category:Educational, Crime
Tags:Police, Rights, law, ACLU, educate yourself
Submitted:WHO WANTS DESSERT
Date:04/12/10
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Smellvin
And for your daily gut-punch, here's a police board on the video:

http://forums.officer.com/showthread.php?t=144248

My personal "favorite" quote:

"How DARE you? This isn't meant to be realistic. This is propaganda and nothing more. How DARE you insinuate that I illegally search people and violate people's rights. How DARE you insult those of us on the front lines putting OUR lives on the line sometimes for absolute scum that would sooner spit on us than to say thank you. You want to compare me to pizz poor acting and a defense attorney with an agenda then damnit, I will assume you are the same as the penis-diddling, child molesting man I ran into last night."
FABIO
I'm sure that guy would be all cooperative smiles if Internal Affairs started frisking, handcuffing him, and rifling through his home.

Cleaner82
Oh that's not a guy, that's Officer Smurfette.

phalsebob
That is a frightening message board. Blowhard internet tough guys are hilarious until they actually get to use guns and near unchecked authority.

Hooper_X
Page 2 has a fine demonstration of People Who Never Took Statistics.

WELL THAT SURVEY DIDN'T ASK EVERYONE BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T ASK ME SO IT CLEARLY ISN'T VALID.

You dumb cunt.

WHO WANTS DESSERT
Multipart didn't work, here's the rest:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKPutNg88bA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REJ2RsLp1Kk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUv3A4hscc0
bac
Worth watching...FUCKING WATCH IT!!!

THA SUGAH RAIN
Rule 1: When pulled over avoid flailing your arms and yelling at the officer. When he asks you to get out, try not to jump out of your car and slam the door. Being a dick to a cop will lead him to... conclude you have tek 9's in your garbage filled trunk.
Adham Nu'man
Rule 1: Avoid being a black person

Dr Dim
A ponytail/skullet, a check suit, and what looks a lot like a fake tan? What the fuck was he judging, wet t shirt contests? You bring this guy to court, they'll pretty much assume you did it.
boner
I bought my Walkman from that guy.

chumbucket
file a complaint? oh yeah, there's another set of videos out there that put that to bed
FatFatuousNation
One such video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1YvwTHKuQQ

FABIO
Do they have a video where someone actually talked to them about a specific incident? Not just sitting there refusing to talk and wanting to walk out with a bunch of forms? What's the logic there? He doesn't trust making a complaint about a police officer to a police officer so he wants to take home complaint forms, fill them out, and give them to...who? Abusive officers magically get fired the instant the ink dries on a form, and the only thing keeping that from happening is the mean corrupt desk sergeant barring you from taking the forms home?

I'd imagine they've give you the same brush off if you came in to report a crime then turned into a broken record asking to take a crime report form home. Retarded investigation for people with a chip.

pastorofmuppets
It wasn't a brush off, they tried to arrest people for asking for the forms. Also, I find it hard to believe that someone would get fired based on a single complaint. And if so, refusing to hand out those forms is not how you deal with that problem, for the obvious reason that it leads to a situation where legitimate complaints can't be dealt with. And what if that person deserved to be fired?

FABIO
They arrested them for demanding to see an officer, then wasting their time by not telling them anything. When the cop gives up and walks away, they stand in the lobby pulling a louder Melvin from Office Space.

If you pulled that in an office lobby, they would have security escort you out, which is their way of saying, "Leave so we don't have to get the police involved." If you refused, they would call the police who would then arrest you. Pull that shit inside a police station and you get to skip a step in the process.

I'm not seeing the conspiracy of officers requiring you to TALK TO THEM about complaints while filling out a form. Had he given them any information whatsoever about a specific incident THEN been denied any kind of form or formal proceedings, that would be a problem. Does he think they work like employment applications? Most police stations won't give you anything more serious than a vehicle accident form without talking to an officer.

"Hi. I'd like to report a rape."
"Who was raped? You?"
"Can I just take a form with me?"
"I need to take your information and statement."
"They're right there. Can I just take one home?"
"I need specifics."
"Why?"
*god knows how much later*
"Why why why why?"

The "I aint giving you shit" guy who then follows him outside and arrests him while leaving the building was out of line, but the guy in the lobby was perfectly reasonable. The parking lot ones were douchey, but we don't really see what led up to it and threatening an arrest/citation but then letting you go is well within their right. Douchey, but legal.

tmavomodry
I imagine the fact that they even have a form on which you need to write down the details of your complaint against a cop suggests the process isn't meant to begin with having to explain yourself to the guy that happens to be there when you show up.

memedumpster
There are other forms of filing complaints.

http://ratemycop.com/

IrishWhiskey
Also make sure that if you show up to court with a copy of Prometheus Bound, know how to pronounce the title.

dr_mr_vandertramps
sheeeeeeeit.

Bored
Libertarian trash.

Get the fuck out of here.
bias
Really?

Johnny Madhouse
What? They specifically defend the actions of officers at several points. Did you actually watch this?

phalsebob
How does libertarianism fit in here?

CharlesSmith
Knowing your rights is LIBERTARIAN! Libertarian things are BAD! Therefore, knowing your rights is BAD!

It's pretty fucking simple guys.

FatFatuousNation
I'm no fan of Ron Paul Libertarians, but you're off the mark on this one, Bored. I rather hope the next time you eagerly present your anus to a power-tripping police officer, he finds a joint in your car (no doubt misplaced by someone younger or a little less boring than you), and you find yourself harassed, fined, and/or thrown in jail.

Maybe beaten, too, because in your shock that a poorly educated individual with a shit job and a gun is not perfectly courteous and reasonable, you might make some remark of indignation as he threatens you, or you might twitch as he's fondling your balls during your pat down -- either of which the officer will gleefully deem threat enough to throw you on the asphalt, bloody you up, and handcuff you. After three months of tedium and paperwork at his imbecilic and unrewarding job, along with his inherent aggression and his fragile sense of importance (these are requisite to prompt a desire to join the police service), he was of course itching to do that in the first place.

Syd Midnight
Dude I hate Libertarians too but if you like having a government, then you owe it to yourself to learn how the part that hassles and arrests you works, if you learn the hard way it's going to cost you a lot of time and money.

I'm not even sure what Bored's point is, "Don't learn or exercise your Constitutional rights because Ayn Rand would"? This was informative and well-produced for a low budget lecture.

Wombles
Yeah, I'm tired of this propaganda trying to turn America into a libertarian state like the UK or Germany.

Baldr
I never knew you don't even have to answer the door if the officers don't have a warrant.
Comatose2
makes sense though, just treat them like jehovah's witnesses

Centennial Ostrich
8:44 really made my day.
Bort
Counterpoint: Barry Cooper's advice on being pulled over:

http://www.poetv.com/video.php?vid=69182

Barry's probably right that refusing to submit to a car search will be seen as reasonable suspicion. So the officer will look extra hard for anything that looks suspicious because he's pretty sure you're hiding something; he might even radio for the drug-sniffing dogs.

pastorofmuppets
When they call for a warrant, and the judge asks them what reason they have to be suspicious, "he didn't consent to a search" won't fly. Now, given the plain view doctrine, refusing a search basically means you don't have to unlock your glove box.

It doesn't matter what an officer sees or doesn't see, what matters is whether it's admissible as evidence. And don't assume they hate you or anything: if they are good at their job, then they know what rights you have and respect them. They have a job to do and obviously they're going to search if you let them. But you don't have to, and obviously if protecting your rights was something that could get you arrested then it's the same as not having them.

Vicious
What do you guys do that causes you to get in so much trouble?
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