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Date:12/18/16
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Old_Zircon
*"Joke" = Donald Trump's penis; "here" = Ivanka Trump.
bawbag
Miss Henson's 6th Grade Class, I've been loving this place since blocking the boring twat, here's how you can too should you so choose:

Step 1: Install ublock:https://www.ublock.org/
Step 2: open up the settings, (whitelist POEtv obviously) go to third party filters and paste the following:

poetv.com##div[style="padding-left: 30px;"]:has(a[href="/users.php?userid=13598"])
poetv.com##td[class='video-text']:has(a[href="/users.php?useri d=13598"])

(replace the user ID number with any user, in this case I've chosen evilhomer because his post-election schtick is boring the fucking tits off me)

Step 3: apply changes and voila, no more comments from that user will be visible. You will still see their video submissions but any comments they make will be filtered entirely. The only visible sign will be a double linebreak where their reply would have been. No more wall of text about ponyfucker cartoons or devil's advocate shit on every goddamn subject.

How does it look in practice? http://imgur.com/aqI6ZJm

bawbag
Sorry OZ, wrong post.

Bobonne
Sadly, I just can't seem to make it work, after half an hour of fiddling with it.

I'd made the decision not to try it the first time I saw you suggest it a while back, trying to "take the higher ground", but seriously, he's getting more interminable by the day.

bawbag
Sorry Bobonne, it should be in UBlock Origin, my bad. I had assumed they were practically identical, but apparently not.

15th
Wah

Bobonne
Ah, thanks.

Bobonne
Do I need any other settings, like "I am an advanced user" or whatever?

EvilHomer
As I told Cena below, while I am deeply sorry to see that my friend Mr Bawbag feels the need to erect a safespace of his own design, I respect his decision, admire his ingenuity, and wish him all the best.

I would not encourage any of you to follow suit, as I feel that open dialogue is always preferable to self-imposed isolation. Exposure to challenging (even infuriating) ideas is important, and I personally find it both really fun and highly-instructive to hear from people who disagree with me and find my arguments lacking - BUT, at the same time, I do not wish to make the PoeTV experience a chore for those of you who do not share with me this same philosophical outlook. So please do as your conscience dictates. No hard feelings! Best of luck, and whether this life or the next, I hope to hear from you again someday!

bawbag
I have the advanced user setting ticked, because I like having full access to the nitty-gritty of it. So long as you can add to the 'my filters' tab you should be able to get it working and avoid the usual longwinded EH nonsense.

Those filters to add are:
poetv.com##div[style="padding-left: 30px;"]:has(a[href="/users.php?userid=13598"])
poetv.com##td[class='video-text']:has(a[href="/users.php?useri d=13598"])

bawbag
Fully working instructions (seeing as I bollocksed up the originals)

Step 1: Install UBlock Origin:https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock
Step 2: open up the settings, (whitelist POEtv obviously) go to 'My Filters' tab and paste the following:

poetv.com##div[style="padding-left: 30px;"]:has(a[href="/users.php?userid=13598"])
poetv.com##td[class='video-text']:has(a[href="/users.php?useri d=13598"])

(replace the user ID number with any user, in this case I've chosen evilhomer because his post-election schtick is boring the fucking tits off me)

Step 3: apply changes and voila, no more comments from that user will be visible. You will still see their video submissions but any comments they make will be filtered entirely. The only visible sign will be a double linebreak where their reply would have been. No more wall of text about ponyfucker cartoons or devil's advocate shit on every goddamn subject.

How does it look in practice? http://imgur.com/aqI6ZJm

Also can't see EH's response in this thread at all but I'm guessing it's the usual 'while I respect different viewpoints blah blah safespaces blah blah' stuff that he's so fond of.

Bobonne
It worked! Hurrah!

No more EH shitting up the comments section with his purposely contrarian but also genuinely piece of shit stupid longwinded faux-intellectual pretentious "opinions"!

bawbag
Glad it could help! :)

EvilHomer
Good for her. I hope she gets it.
EvilHomer
Also, I'm a little shocked, but more than that saddened, to see the attitude on display here. Ivanka is a talented young woman, of good moral character, a strong work ethic, and with a bright future ahead of her! And yet, apparently, the only thing which people can think to say about her are rape jokes, sexual innuendo, and incestophobic comments.

Once again, I have to ask if anyone here has bothered to consider how this kind of behavior would play out, were the merely-partisan roles reversed. Had Hillary won, and had she and Chelsea been subjected (by the alt-right presumably) to the same kind of filth which Melania and Ivanka are now enduring, how would we respond? Would those of us now leering at the thought of Donald plowing his nubile daughter, leer just as perversely at the thought of Bill nailing Chelsea? Or would this be "evidence" of the "degeneracy" - even downright "dangerousness" - of the sick, misogynistic "right"?

simon666
What do you know about her talents, EH?

EvilHomer
I think I've LJ'd about this before, but she went to my old prep school. She's a few years older than I am and the two of us were neither friends nor in the same form, but my father was her academic adviser, and I've had box-seats with which to observe her growth over last decade and a half. She's always been an extremely decent person; not terribly good at math, but a hard worker with a stronger moral character than any other heiress I know, and while I would never in a million years have suspected that she'd one day become de facto First Lady, we could do worse!

Miss Henson's 6th grade class
Look, I don't care who you know or where you went to school, but you've turned into this place's most insufferable troll. She's talented, huh? So are lots of people, though. And "heiresses" isn't a tough crowd to beat, work-ethic wise. I hope she's talented and hard-working enough to help run a superpower.

EvilHomer
At any rate, this isn't about me, nor is it even really about Ivanka. Rather, it is about the treatment which Ivanka and her mother have been subjected to, and continue to be subjected to, by the very same groups who would normally be EXTREMELY sensitive and careful regarding this kind of behavior.

Let's be honest here: Hillary's campaign banked heavily on gender identity politics. Team Democrat was supposed to be all about Women and Women's Rights; every disagreement with Hillary was, at least on some level, suspected to be evidence of misogyny (whether coded or overt). *The biggest weapon in their arsenal against Trump* was his supposed "sexism", the lewd, risque comments he sometimes made towards women.

__But was this concern actually genuine?__ At the time, a lot of outside observers said "no". They pointed to things like the left's treatment of Sarah Palin, or Michelle Bachmann, Anne Coulter, even newcomers like ShoeOnHead. They said that the left's feigned outrage at the misogyny of Trump and his supporters was just that - feigned outrage. A useful straw to grasp at, an ingenuine attempt to give their pre-drawn conclusions about Trump some extra moral and emotional weight.

And now we get to see how the mob reacts to Ivanka and Melania. I can safely say that I have NEVER heard anything quite as rape-y said about Hillary Clinton, or indeed any Democrats, as I have been hearing about Ivanka and her poor mother. The sort of vile, offhanded, slut-shaming jokes fired against Ivanka would make even the fattest and most hate-filled of GamerGater cliches cower in shame - and yet this rhetoric is accepted, seemingly without any pause or nagging self-awareness, by the very same groups who, barely a month ago, would have (and indeed DID) condemn behavior not even a tenth as odious as their own.

I mean, maybe for a few people here, OK. Folks who have been consistently pro-rape, like Orcs or Gmork, then go for it. Knock yourself out. Ivanka is hot, can't blame you dorks for lusting over her. But I put it to you that the *overwhelming majority* of those people who are now sexually harassing Donald Trump's family are hypocrites of the highest order; hypocrites who have, almost literally overnight, turned on its head the most essential, foundational principles of their previously-professed worldview.

EvilHomer
>> Miss Henson's 6th Grade Class

Case in point. It is now "insufferable" and "trolling" to suggest that there might be something wrong with reducing one of America's fastest-rising female professionals to an object of crude sexual derision.

Miss Henson's 6th grade class
Perhaps I should have been clearer. I find the Trumps generally creepy, but many of the jokes that have been thrown around the left-leaning side of the internet are clearly crude, out of line, and, yes, hypocritical. Maybe we agree there, but...

Somewhere out in the real world, the presidency is about to be put into the hands of a dangerously ignorant, unstable, egotistical man with a worldview that's somewhere between "confused" and "deranged." The fact that Ivanka Trump -- who may have talents, I dunno -- may be put in charge of important aspects of US government policy terrifies me, as it should every sane American.

But you'd rather sit here and blame internet lefities for...well, everything. I don't know if you place yourself on the left these days, but there's nothing you won't blame lefties for. Your political masochism seems to know no bounds. Are lefties who say sexist things about Ivanka wrong? Yes! You know who's worse? Anyone who voted for Trump for (just about) any reason. That's politics, Homer, not gotcha internet-board trolling.

Yes, you have a point. But the amount of importance you give these little debates seems to underscore a certain -- how should I put it? -- lack of seriousness, or remove from reality. Did people on the left crack mean jokes about Ann Coulter's appearance? Oh, dear, well. I suppose that's wrong, but she's still an emotionally damaged cryto-authoritarian with an audience of millions. Guess what worries me more.

And as for this "identity politics" critique I keep hearing, the people who make it seem to ignore that most of the groups mentioned as "identity-dependent" had really great reasons for voting against Trump, and many will soon find out about them first-hand. Should the Democrats have broadcast Trump's many anti-Latino statements to Latinos to garner Latino votes? Honestly, I can't see why not. While the numbers didn't exactly line up with expectations, it's not hard to see how Latinos might suffer under a Trump presidency. All this "why can't people have made objective arguments" stuff is nonsense: this ain't a debating society. When everything we call "social progress" in the United States might get set back about half a century, certain groups -- identity groups! -- stand to lose big. I don't see why the Democrats were wrong in ringing the bell. What doomed them, really, was a weak candidate and an absolutely crazed right wing. Yes, they made mistakes. But I know where I'm placing most of the blame.

Old_Zircon
^^^all of the above is, of course, completely irrelevant, because nobody here is even joking about Ivanka.

We're jking about her father, and his extremely long and creepy history of not so subtly implying that he finds her sexually attractive. Other than EH himself, nobody here has really brought her in to this at all.

bawbag
Miss Henson's 6th Grade Class:

Step 1: Install ublock:https://www.ublock.org/
Step 2: open up the settings, (whitelist POEtv obviously) go to third party filters and paste the following:

poetv.com##div[style="padding-left: 30px;"]:has(a[href="/users.php?userid=13598"])
poetv.com##td[class='video-text']:has(a[href="/users.php?useri d=13598"])

(replace the user ID number with any user, in this case I've chosen evilhomer because his post-election schtick is boring the fucking tits off me)

Step 3: apply changes and voila, no more comments from that user will be visible. You will still see their video submissions but any comments they make will be filtered entirely. The only visible sign will be a double linebreak where their reply would have been. No more wall of text about ponyfucker cartoons or devil's advocate shit on every goddamn subject.

How does it look in practice? http://imgur.com/aqI6ZJm

Cena_mark
Ivanka's speech at the GOP Convention sounded quite progressive in terms of women's pay. I was quite surprised it was getting over, then again most GOP knuckleheads will cheer whoever is down with Trump.

bawbag
In fact MH6GC, use UBlock Origin, just to be sure.

Cena_mark
Bawbag, though I disagree with your censoring of Homer, I do find that picture showing the censoring code in action to be pretty funny. You should give Homer another chance. He says some enlightening stuff.

kingarthur
Trolling or not, let's all just focus on the fact that EH used the term "incestophobic" in what appeared to be at least a jokingly serious manner.

I mean, wow.

EvilHomer
Cena: Censorship is the last resort of a man who has no valid arguments. If Mr Bawbag has nothing rational to say and can neither handle disagreement nor derive enjoyment from having a fun afternoon in the marketplace of ideas, then while I am certainly sad to see my good friend and fellow countryman go, perhaps Mr Bawbag's absence is for the best? While I categorically reject censorship, and would NEVER try to erect a "safespace"/ "hugbox" of my own (nor can I understand the mindset of a man who would retreat into such a hugbox), so long as such measures are undertaken voluntarily and with full awareness, then Mr Bawbag has the freedom to choose self-censorship, and it is with equal parts regret and happiness that I respect his decision.



Miss Henson:
>> Are lefties who say sexist things about Ivanka wrong? Yes!

Thank you! That's all I was saying. I am glad I could persuade you.

As to the rest of your post, which (correct me if I am wrong) I believe can be summarized as "it is important to criticize Trump" and "Trump is worse than Hillary": I would say "yes" to the first (with the caveat here with any criticism be kept intellectually rigorous and above-the-belt; there is no need to make sexist attacks on his family, when there is plenty of important criticism to made) and "no" to the second (the problems with Hillary are many, and have been discussed at length already). The notion that ALL Trump voters are worse than even the most demonstrably and admittedly thuggish of anti-Trump sexists is, well, it's a little shocking to ME hearing that, and I put it to you that this is just your own partisan radicalization talking. I don't honestly think that you believe that statement, Ms Henson, and I would encourage you to try and find common ground with at least a few of the decent Trump supporters (they do exist!) - because Trump supporters of consciousness, like Bernie supporters of consciousness, or Obama supporters of consciousness, are about to be in for a rude awakening; and when that happens, it would be nice if we were *emotionally* and *intellectually* capable of bridging the gap and forming a resistance coalition based on common values.

As for the questions directed specifically towards me, about me - well, no, I don't think I blame lefties for everything, and I apologize if that is the impression I give you. I blame ANYONE for ANYTHING, if and when I believe they warrant blaming (as, in this instance, misogynistic lefties do), and I think, perhaps, you yourself are noticing my critiques of leftist behavior MORE than other groups, because you yourself identify as a leftist, and are more apt to focus on and remember such criticism. It may also be partially because most of our fellow Poesters here are self-identified leftists; thus, in this venue, there is more opportunity to interact with, and therefore critique, leftist behavior. (I can't tell you how many Youtube and Redditites have accused me of "only" criticizing the right!)

As for whether *I* consider myself a leftist? Well, I don't generally ascribe to any labels these days, as I believe investigating in an identity group encourages people to adopt rigid "packages" of potentially irrational positions, and gets in the way of understanding (and acting upon) core principles. I am also highly skeptical of the left_Right Paradigm, particularly as it is used in American political discourse. I guess it would all depend on how you define "left" - so if you could give me a definition, then I'd be happy to tell you if I'd still be comfortable with the leftist label or not!



OZ: I know it's meant to be a joke and I really don't think you meant anything by it (you're one of the least sexist, most open-minded Poesters here), but Ivanka's clearly become the target for sexual humor both here and elsewhere, and that's not right.



Kingarthur: I could not think of a better term to convey the systemic patterns of cultural and legal intolerance shown towards the consensual-incest community; a community which has, historically, been extremely important to human societies (even, at many times, "the norm"), and which in recent years, riding the wave of contemporary sexual-liberation, seems to be growing and re-asserting itself. I don't even know if such a word exists in our common vernacular yet, so while I know "incestophobic" SOUNDS a little silly (a lot silly?), I hope my meaning was nevertheless accurately conveyed.

Oscar Wildcat
The crucial point to consider is that EvilHomer is a product of the same educational system as Ivanka Trump. I think one can glean quite a bit from discussing issues with him on that basis. Our elite educational system produces quite a product, wouldn't you say? If you are wondering how Ivanka sleeps at night, follow EH down one of his rabbit holes. Post Modernism is the opiate of the ruling class, don't you think?

Well, to be fair, at some point he made a choice to reject it. But the education still remains. You can take the EvilHomer out of Choate, but it's a lot harder to take the Choate out of Evilhomer.

EvilHomer
That's a great point, Mr Wildcat; I honestly hadn't considered that, at least not consciously, but now that you mention it: yes! An Ivanka White House *would* be rather like an EvilHomer White House.

However, I should also add that we've had "EvilHomer White Houses" before. Other veterans of our school include Adlai Stevenson and JFK - the latter being particularly apropos, given the very real possibility of Trump's being "retired" by House Bush and their CIA buddies. Also, I'm not sure precisely how many other Presidents and senior White House staffers have gone through similar private education systems, but I'm willing to bet that the answer is "most to all of them".

As scary as this is to consider, past a certain point on the socioeconomic scale, we ALL become EvilHomers.

EvilHomer
OH FUCK. I was just going through the list of alumni again, and apparently Wangchuk was the Prince of Bhutan! I had no fucking idea.

But there ya go. Ivanka has connections; and not just connections in Washington, I'm talking global connections, lifelong friendships with important people from all kinds of industries and all over the globe. That kind of experience will serve her very well in her time at the White House. I think people have a tendency to underestimate the rich, thanks in no small part to the unflattering depictions of socialites which the Huxlian media likes to beam into our hovels. But she's got a fine education and has comported herself very well in the private sector so far, so I hope that we will be willing to at least give her a chance.

Who knows? Given the way the presidency has worked for, well, the entire time that I've been alive, it is entirely possible that in another eight-to-sixteen years, Ivanka will be our First Female President!

How awesome would that be?!

Oscar Wildcat
The problem with opiates is that, while they insulate you from feeling pain, they also insulate you from feeling pleasure. And they require larger and larger doses just to maintain. Pretty soon, your whole life revolves around propping up that bit of protection...

So your great point, which requires a one hundred thousand word exegesis, is that the left are phoneys? Wow. That's amazing. I'm shocked. What a revelation. Why not write a few hundred thousand more words on the subject. Better yet, write about your parents. That would be far more interesting, and get at the root of why you find the left so unappealling. I'm quite serious on that point. Your personal observations about your life are always interesting and worth reading. It's only when you shoot up the post modernism that we get a raft of glossolalia about "the phoneys". Jesus EH, Sallinger didn't write that stuff for you to idolize.

I'll make you a deal. You give me one good anecdote about your left wing parents, and I'll give you one about my right wing ones. OK?

exy
great, now i barfed on myself
Oscar Wildcat
The first lady's orifice is capacious enough to contain the whole family.
Maggot Brain
I was expecting for Melania to divorce Trump if he didn't win. Now that he has own he has locked her away in the dreaded TRUMP TOWER.
Oscar Wildcat
Based on her body language prior to the election, I thought just the opposite. And I was right! She won't even live under the same roof with him now. She's got the boy as well. Now Don needs something to paper over that hole.

simon666
Yes, this is all very "touching".
Waugh
king of the daughterfuckers
Meerkat
She's gonna be working long hours to manage all the various conflicts of interest.
15th
The people behind "Nailin' Palin" are probably working doubles.
Hooker
Humpin' Trump

Caminante Nocturno
Trump in the Rump

Trump gets Plump

Donald Dumps a Load

Xenocide
An inspiration to mail order brides everywhere.
Old_Zircon
I think this is a good place to point out that every internet community I've been involved with has been completely decimated and more often than not completely shut down within two years (usually well within) of ignore scripts starting to appear. Nothing anyone can say (obviously actual harassment is another issue but it's also damn near impossible for it to happen on this site) is anywhere near as damaging as ignore scripts.
bawbag
I don't agree. I've seen them used to great effect in ridding forums of trolls and small community forums in particular benefit from people being able to selectively ignore the most toxic elements of the community that just derail and kill any alternative to 'their' conversations.

All the other examples I can think of where 'ignore' is an option are thriving and the trolls have moved on to more abundant attention sources.

I used to work for Myspace back when it still had forums and the lack of an ignore function is a large part of what finally made the forums a liability and in the end they shitcanned the forums completely as it was just a constant source of harassment and cross-site trouble.

Anyway, here are the full, revised instructions for anyone who wants to deal with less of the bullshit on here and go back to just enjoying the videos without the schtick:

Step 1: Install UBlock Origin:https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock
Step 2: open up the settings, (whitelist POEtv obviously) go to 'My Filters' tab and paste the following:

poetv.com##div[style="padding-left: 30px;"]:has(a[href="/users.php?userid=13598"])
poetv.com##td[class='video-text']:has(a[href="/users.php?useri d=13598"])

(replace the user ID number with any user, in this case I've chosen evilhomer because his post-election schtick is boring the fucking tits off me)

Step 3: apply changes and voila, no more comments from that user will be visible. You will still see their video submissions but any comments they make will be filtered entirely. The only visible sign will be a double linebreak where their reply would have been. No more wall of text about ponyfucker cartoons or devil's advocate shit on every goddamn subject.

How does it look in practice? http://imgur.com/aqI6ZJm

EvilHomer
While I am certainly inclined to agree with OZ, and obviously am a little hurt that my friend Bawbag has chosen to ignore me, I would just like to reiterate that I respect Bawbag's decision, and wish him the best! Ironically enough, Bawbag himself was, at least in recent months, starting to become a borderline troll, and while I personally would never think of ignoring him (or any other user, for that matter), it IS slightly easier to carry on meaningful conversations now that he has rendered himself unable to derail threads with personal attacks.

Old_Zircon
You don't agree that essentially every community I've been part of has collapsed within two years of ignore filters coming in to common use?

Because they have.

Oscar Wildcat
It's not hard to see why. They sort of defeat the whole point of a discussion board. That said, as a routine, it's been making me chuckle. Just so long as your advocacy remains ineffectual.

Bort
"whitelist POEtv obviously"

It is not obvious, it sounds counterproductive, and from what I see it foils the blocking altogether. Bort sez, do everything BUT whitelist POEtv.

Sorry EH but I really do get sick of your Doing A Thing constantly. At least for now, I like PoeTV better without your contributions. (And fair's fair, if anyone wants to block me, that's cool too. I'll just plan a surprise birthday party for you and you'll never even know.)

Bort
Causation and correlation: is it possible that people start using ignore scripts precisely because a site is starting to turn insufferable?

Also, sites fall apart even without the ignore scripts. PoE-News turned to shit and I don't recall ignore scripts being part of it. Though they might have made the place a lot better to visit ...

bawbag
Ah yeah Bort, I should be clearer. You can whitelist the ads here while leaving the 'my filters' entries active.

bawbag
@OZ: my disagreement was with the conclusion based on your anecdotes.

"Nothing anyone can say... is anywhere near as damaging as ignore scripts."

I mean, you do remember the POE-news forums and all the resulting dramas over the years right?

15th
I cant believe the most humorless, self-righteous users are the early adopters!

bawbag
...15th posted without one iota of self-awareness or irony.

'Humor' apparently equals 'a decade or more of the same joke, over and over'.

Ok.jpg

15th
What's ironic about it?

Maybe I am being a little righteous, but I really like poetv and I can imagine this fucking it up. The people over at failblog.cheezburger don't like me.

15th
For instance, I wanted to call you all pissy piss twats dripping with cry piss, but I don't want to be excluded from future discussions.

My quill has already been stifled.

Furthermore, I give Bort shit all the time, but I still think he's funny and worth reading. I wouldn't want to erase him from existence just because he's a bootlicking corporate apologist.

The whole thing seems very elitist.

bawbag
I love this place dude, I've been coming here (and to PoE-red before) since the very beginning but I don't buy the 'all or nothing' argument as regards the discussions here.

Now I came up with a solution that works for me and a handful of others who're just sick of the decent conversations always ending up in a derail (from the usual suspects who live for the attention).

It's not the end of this place, which has outlasted all the much crazier drama that has assailed it in the past; it -is- the end of some particular voices always having to dominate centre stage, at least in my browser.

Bort
If I had a better sense of humor, I'd APPRECIATE walls of text that are primarily an exercise in contrariness.

Bort
"Furthermore, I give Bort shit all the time, but I still think he's funny and worth reading. I wouldn't want to erase him from existence just because he's a bootlicking corporate apologist."

And I think you stand every chance of turning into an ACTUAL bootlicking corporate apologist as soon as you land a good job, because your so-called principles are nothing more than siding with whoever you think offers you the best deal, same as any dumbfuck Teabagger. Regardless, I have no plans to block you, or anyone but EH at this point. As far as I can tell, EH's goal is to crapflood this site because he enjoys hearing the sound of his own voice, and his particular shtick is contrariness. I'm hesitant to ban him because some people enjoy him, but he significantly detracts from my enjoyment of the site ... so my blocking him at the browser end is not a bad compromise. Maybe I'll un-block him in a week and see if he's calmed down.

15th
Well, I hope you're right. :S

15th
Bort, I was joking. Jesus.

bawbag
Here's the thing though 15th. I can disagree with plenty of people and feel no need to ignore their shit. RoUS is a prime example, I've given him hell over his racist outbursts and yet I will still engage him despite the fact he turns into insult-o-bot whenever I call it out now.

that guy is another example, we often disagree on things. Still no desire to ignore the guy because he's genuine. He's not doing it for the sake of attention.

With EH, it's a decade or so of his 'doing a bit' and it's beyond tiresome, it's the skit that never ends and all it ever succeeds in doing is killing the interesting discussions that the rest of the community might have without his totally insincere 'argument for the sake of argument' and wall of text pony/conspiracy/ancap/tanks/swords bullshit.

I'm not going to ignore you because genuinely, sometime you post things I agree with/find funny or that I find interesting to read/discuss so hold your quill back no more, I only ignore the 'doing a bit' squad that I'm just fucking sick of and if you've not given me a decade of 'the same shit ad nauseam' then you have nada to worry about in that regard.

15th
I still don't dig it. But, I hear what you guys are saying.

Old_Zircon
"Bort
Causation and correlation: is it possible that people start using ignore scripts precisely because a site is starting to turn insufferable?"


Yes. At which point it quickly becomes much worse fairly quickly, just a bunch of people talking to themselves, and then whoever owns it shuts it down and moves on.

In our case, the last thing probably won't happen because I don't think whoever currently runs this site would bother to shut it down.

Old_Zircon
Anyway, you don't even need an ignore script in this case, if it's EH's posts that are bothering you just do what I do and read them in the voice of drunk Tiny Tim.

Bort
"Yes. At which point it quickly becomes much worse fairly quickly, just a bunch of people talking to themselves, and then whoever owns it shuts it down and moves on."

Well, this site runs on the honor system in general, so either we can count on people to be mindful of the good of the site or we can't. I know that my (current) use of the blocker is limited to one particular user for (what I consider) crapflooding; I might have used it on lotsmoreorcs as well, except he was banned so it never became necessary. But lotsmoreorcs is an instructive study.

In terms of the rancorous political arguments of the past 18 months, I imagine they're going to be mostly over for the next few years, so that's going to make the place more enjoyable. And yeah I acknowledge my role in the arguments, and I intend to tone it WAY down. (Though if anyone complains that they had no idea Trump would be such a bad president and why didn't anyone warn them, the gloves come off.)

Raggamuffin
How about a compromise: a script that only prints the first line of every paragraph EH posts. Just enough for you to get the idea, not enough for him to flood a thread with whatever he's always talking about.

Bort
I'd consider it, if anyone knows how to do that. Not that EH wouldn't game that anyway, by starting with a reasonable introductory paragraph and then launching into "on the other hand ..."

That guy
OZ, I never thought I'd say this but I'm coming around to bawbag's way of thinking if only because of the sheer fucking volume of EH's schtick. The schtick itself, however serious or joking is boring the shit out of me, and the volume of it is starting to fuck up too many pages per week.

bawbag
The code's right there for anyone who wants to tweak it, I'm not sure if a selective filtering like that is doable mind you.

chumbucket
NEWS!
StanleyPain
Hey, did you guys know that Ivanka has long been buddies with Putin's current girlfriend?
Old_Zircon
Putin is dating Chelsea Clinton?

Oscar Wildcat
...it's a small world, after all!

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