Whatever you think of TP up to this point or however it turns out in the future, this episode will be talked about for years to come. Among the best things Lynch has done and one of the best things ever televised in broadcast history, which admittedly isn't much of a "thing" anymore what with streaming now.
after all the hubbub, i thought it was pretty lame tbh. film school stuff.
some good things, like the frog bug critter. the best parts of the new series are the funny bits, and this wasn't funny. nine inch nails are embarrassing.
Two Jar Slave
NIN was the first time I've reached for the fast-forward button in season 3. I enjoyed the rest of the episode as high production value video art. I will not entertain any arguments about its meaning on a story level.
Two Jar Slave
In case I sounded underwhelmed or aloof, this episode totally squeezed my brains out of my eyeholes, and I haven't been able to stop thinking about it all day. Not even think "about" it, just replay its images in my mind over and over. Whatever this was, it landed.
Hah, I actually forgot the NIN bit. That's how good the episode was.
In terms of TP lore, though, any thoughts on what the fuck it all means? The atom bomb is the birth of Bob? A reference to the Woodsmen from FWWM? Can Bad Cooper be killed? Does any of it matter?
maybe I can watch it someday when it comes out on dvd
Phht, DVD? Whatever, old man....I'll be watching it on lossless holocrystal with my liquid cooled VR goggles made from titanium.
2017 America doesn't deserve a show this good.
|Dumb Lamer |
This scene seemed better in the context of the show. I also swear it lasted five minutes when I first watched it.
|John Holmes Motherfucker |
One of the things I love about Twin Peaks Season 3, and I've said this before, is that the coherent narrative of the original show gives all this Eraserhead shit some context, making it more accessible.
I think I agree with poorwill. Those dramatic scenes from season 7 are the best: Diane confronting the evil Cooper, Cooper, alienated from himself, suddenly finding his FBI reflexes and stopping a would-be assasin, any scene with David Lynch as Gordon Cole, who is a much better character now than 25 years ago. I can't tell if it's the acting or the writing that has improved, but when he says "Ah yes, the memory of tobacco.", that was a tender moment for me. Maybe every ex-smoker lives with with those moments of perverse nostalgia for a disgusting horrible habit that made one feel like shit, and cough up nasty ba;lls of phlegm. I know that I do, but I don't talk about it.
But this crazy episode 8? I love that somebody can do something like that, even if parts of it made me doze a little. That incredible 3D shot of a nuclear explosion, slowly zooming into the mushroom cloud... that was amazing, and terrifying, and dare I say it, beautiful things I've ever seen. No one has Those same grainy stock footage shots of mushroom clouds that we've been looking at for sixty years make it seem like the threat has been fading into the past. No one has had the will or the technology to shake up that iconic image.
Totally agreed, across the board. Having the grounding in TP lore and stories and characters made the surreal, abstract stuff not only tolerable for me but interesting and enjoyable (though, like you, at times it was hard not to zone out a bit). I'd already thought to myself and said that episode 6 proved this is Lynch's magnum opus; between the almost parodic straight-on info dump of last week's episode, and then everything that happened in this one, I just can't believe we get something this good. I feel very honestly lucky and privileged to be alive and present while The Return is coming out.
Yeah, I agree with that as well. The show seems less a pandering tribute to the old seasons and more Lynch kind of waving to his fans, but also doing things he probably wanted to do a long time ago with the setting and characters. Clearly season 3 has Lynchian comedy in it, but it is really effecting how he decided to basically make Cole and Albert sort of the dramatic center of the story so far as opposed to the broad comedy of the original show.
I am assuming the tobacco thing was also just a little joke at Lynch himself supposedly quitting smoking (guy was smoking like 4 packs a day or something at one point).
|Space Odin |
This is really everything Lynch has ever done, coming together.
In the Black & White space, when ?????? and Senorita Dido get to the theatre, I proclaimed "NO HAY BANDA!"
It sucks we don't get a new ep for two weeks, but DAMN, this episode.
And lest you think that that (trying to avoid spoilers here) what the Giant conjures up and sends to Earth is the same person we saw walking around TP back in 89, well, recall what the Little Man From Another Place once said: "She's my cousin. But doesn't she look almost exactly like Laura Palmer?"
Lastly, I really appreciate that these clips get posted every episode on here, so we can talk about the show. There's no place on the internet like POETV, and I really dig hearing what y'all think.
John Holmes Motherfucker
It's great that we get a new Twin Peaks, now that we have the internet.
The courageous thing about David Lynch is that he risks self-parody again and again. We could all decide that he was a charlatan, and that would be that. He would be a charlatan, forevermore. It's arguably the biggest risk an artist can take, and he takes it, going right up to that line again and again. Occasionally, he crosses the line. (I'm thinking of certain moments from Fire Walk with Me.) but when he does, he's forgiven, and rightly so.
|John Holmes Motherfucker |
Anybody else notice the similarity between the shape of the mush room could and the shape of "The Arm"?
Two Jar Slave
I was thinking more about the similarity in texture between the barfsperm that birthed BOB-egg and the tree-arm-neuron's headbrain.
|infinite zest |
Here's a tiny problem I had that in no way affected my enjoyment of the episode: The bomb itself. Don't get me wrong, it gets the point across, but atomic energy manifesting itself as flesh ain't nothing new: From Kubrick's TJ Kong to Toho's, uhh, Godzilla vs. King Kong and even Duras' Hiroshima Mon Amor and myriad forms of literature in-between. Another long-haired fellow once described himself as the "runaway soul of a nuclear a-bomb," even.
Like, I don't really have a problem with the noticeable lack of the actual town of Twin Peaks, but I thought it would've been cool if Bob was the product of a volcanic eruption, since, ya know, mountains and titles of shows and such. That'd also just give more meaning to the scenes in other parts of the country that have some serious Twin Peaks shit going on in them. And it'd go in tandem with Hawk's adherence to Log Lady when it comes to exploring his heritage and thereby finding Cooper. Like, Twin Peaks is in Snoqualmie, Washington, which is on the other side of the state as St. Helens, but it'd still make more sense than ancient aliens in New Mexico or whatever.
But Goddamn this was probably the best thing I'll ever see on TV, /\/. /. \/\ and all.
It's been awhile since I watched Seasons 1 and 2, but I have a question if anyone is still reading this... What happened to Major Briggs by the end? I remember he disappears, but then he comes back and that's how Cooper learns about the black lodge (sorta) etc. but I forget what happened to him by the series end. Did he disappear again? (I know in real life the actor died, so he was written out of Season 3 basically)
IIRC, he gets kidnapped by Windom Earle at some point and interrogated (thus the scene wherein he's asked his greatest fear, and replies "That love may not be enough" or similar). I believe he must get free, because goes on to get up to some other stuff -- according to Bobby in The Return, he died in a fire (or "died in a fire" since that's never the case in TP) 25 years ago, shortly after being visited by Cooper (as in the doppelganger, Mr. C).
According to the Air Force official played by Ernie Hudson, though, Briggs' prints have shown up (I think at various crime scenes?) over the past 25 years. Some have surmised it's Mr. C using Briggs' prints, though I don't necessarily buy that.
Finally, he seems to have some connection to Mark Frost's The Secret History of Twin Peaks, which is the book published just before the new season, and which is in the form of a dossier that at some point lands in the hands of FBI Agent Tammy Preston. But I'm not gonna talk about that, in fact I'm not gonna talk about that at all.
Oh wow..I was totally confused then. Shit..I totally forgot Bobby was his son. Jesus, and I only watched the whole series like a year ago last.
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