|Hazelnut - 2018-01-07 |
I'm going to go out on a limb here and admit that I like capitalism. There is room for improvement, as with any human system ever ever.
Any worthwhile improvements in capitalism turn it into socialism.
That's just playing games with definitions
|Robin Kestrel - 2018-01-07 |
I kinda want those ice cubes now.
|SolRo - 2018-01-07 |
I have a hard time imagining a (non-violent) situation where the nebulous evil forces of capitalism in America lose their stranglehold on everything.
With Trump their victory is complete. They had republicans set up the government for full corporate ownership under Obama by denying him hundreds of lifetime judicial appointments that will now be filled by Trump via a list he's handed by lobbyists, so the appeals courts will mostly turn into corporate whores. If a liberal SCUTOS justice dies or retires while trump is in power, that's the end of any part of the constitution that impedes profits.
Unions are dead.
Politicians accept bribes openly.
The populace is so mindless and pliable that money and/or media exposure is all it takes to win elections.
Education is getting worse to perpetuate the above.
Healthcare has become open theft at the threat of death.
You cant sue any corporation or your employer because of universal arbitration contracts, not that it matters because you cant afford to sue a corporation and the courts are already mostly corporate owned.
But at least we have top 10 lists, reality TV and memes.
on the upside, the US is being a great cautionary example to the rest of the world, and will influence centrist voting patterns for at least another decade.
after that we'll probably end up doing the same thing. it's kind of a sad cycle.
Most empires last approximately 250 years and 2018 is the year the USA enters the +/- 4 year historical margin of error.
I'm not prepared to speculate on whether another empire will step in after this one collapses (or hopefully fades gracefully away, but I'm not holding my breath) before we're hit by an extinction level event.
"It's not as bad as being a literal slave"
-some idiot on the internet.
The fact that you can scoff at "better than slaves" kind of proves his point.
"There's so much progress we haven't given back yet."
Littler and littler every day.
"The fact that you can scoff at "better than slaves" kind of proves his point." . . .
is really ignorant.
Ignorance is living in our modern society and refusing to acknowledge the multitude ways in which our lives are objectively better in every way than every single human being who has come before us.
The fact that it doesn't conform to your ideal of how much better it could be is completely irrelevant, you spoiled fuck.
Man, give some well-off idiots a shiny cell phone and suddenly everyone's lives -must- be better than any person that has been alive before them.
I cant believe people can be so impenetrably stupid as to think cheap shiny future gadgets must mean we're all doing better.
Everything boils down to wealth inequality and wage growth for us proles being non-existent for the last 40 years.
American healthcare is amazing and world class, if you're a multimillionaire or richer. It sucks ass for most everyone else, and it's a death sentence if you're middle class or lower with a serious illness.
American education is amazing and world class, if you're born in to a rich, well-connected family that can get you in to the top schools. Most of the rest are average at best while still costing almost as much as a house.
American jobs are amazing and world class, if you're in upper management, a money pusher, tech bro, etc. But if your income is under $100k you don't get pensions any more, even bonuses are going away, decreasing rights, and you're now an expendable "human resource" to be culled en-mass whenever the CEO fucks up.
Is your only answer that things aren't as good as they could be, because that's not what's being argued.
Your life is fucking awesome compared to how your parents and your grandparents had it, with one exception that only exists because the Nazi's swept away any chance anyone had of catching up for nearly 40 years. If you can't at least acknowledge what you have, feel free to end it.
If your parents are boomers, they had it better than you.
You're an illiterate troglodyte if you don't know that.
Actually, why don't you go ahead and explain how everything is 'the bestest it has ever been in the history of ever'?
|GravidWithHate - 2018-01-08 |
The best argument for capitalism is a conversation with the people who want to dismantle it about what they want to replace it with.
Yo, right here:
Better regulated markets in areas where free markets make sense.
Socialized industries where they make sense (healthcare, utilities, etc).
That's not really so much "dismantling capitalism" as much as it's the only sane position and what the world is inexorably headed towards.
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