|Cleaner82 - 2008-11-05 |
I can really dig this. It was a nasty, nasty, bloody, vicious fight. But when it's over it's over.
This old, classy McCain.
WHERE THE FUCK HAS HE BEEN?!
John, we were all POW's of your campaign. Please go back to Arizona. We forgive you.
|mr666 - 2008-11-05 |
:-) So long!
|IrishWhiskey - 2008-11-05 |
John McCain did a good job speaking across a divide, and giving us hints of the old Maverick we once knew.
But it was quite clear from this speech that he wasn't in charge of that crowd, or that party. They booed Obama at every opportunity despite McCain's urgings, and cheered louder for Palin than they did him.
I really do hope the Republican party learns to rebuild as a national party rather than a hate-based party. Because as much as I want to see states turn Blue, I know our country will never be whole until the party of Lincoln, Teddy and Eisenhower find their roots.
All signs point to the Republican party sinking into the mud.
They even started chanting her name while he was still speaking!
|baleen - 2008-11-05 |
I live pretty much in black housing projects, around the intersection of Bed Stuy, Bushwick and Williamsburg.
There were people running around in the streets crying.
It's a good feeling.
These people deserve to cry. Fuck all that welcome back unity shit. I was talking to an Iranian friend of mine who lives in Tulsa. The gossip around there is that Obama killed his grandmother to get elected. Southern Repubicans actually believe that.
No, I don't think I will fuck all that unity shit. You can continue to grind your teeth at the evil republican who nearly punched you in a bar at your preference.
I actually like the guy.
I actually like Republicans too.
I'd just like to see how far I can push my insidious progressive agenda before compromises need to be made.
To a certain extent maybe I just lack perspective. Because for all the dirty tricks McCain has pulled, for all the horrible things he's said, I still respect him to a degree. If this were a Palin ticket, however, I have to admit my taunts would probably be without mercy.
I respect McCain to a degree as well, but also utterly refute the disgusting bigotry that people have experienced during this election from the right. I mean just hearing what my friend Shirin (she's Persian) went through as an Obama fan in Oklahoma. It's despicable what they put her through... It's something we can do without in this country and to hell with McCain for trying to use it to his advantage... Perhaps that worked for FDR when he was REQUIRED to suppress his desire to abolish segregation, but because of the massive changes in demographics even in the past four years we don't really need the south anymore. The time has come where we can just pay their welfare checks and keep them out of the political arena. At least I hope so.
I am also hoping that with the near-complete purging of the racist and irrationally anti-socialist (or anti-Federalist or anti-Progressive if you really want to get American with semantics) contingents from the Democratic party that something really nice will come of things. I would like to remain optimistic, I don't want to fall into the cynicism that I did during the Clinton years that basically led to a reactionary backlash in 2000 and 2004.
Sure sure, but I guess my point is when you 'purge' people in this case they haven't actually gone anywhere. No guns in this war, so when you're done you gotta live with the losers. And you can try, or not. I think in the end it's the 'us v them' mentality that's really what needs fighting, whoever 'we' are, and 'they' are.
Now is as good a time as any to start. No one said the friendly neighborhood bigot will nessecarily reciprocate, but the least I can do is be a gracious winner if and when the olive branch is extended. This was absolutely the right thing, even if it came at the end of a string of wrong things, even if it's the right thing for the wrong reasons -- I'm not psychic, I can't pretend to know the man's motivations. But I've always believed in credit where it's due, so a gold star on my board for John McCain.
It can of course always be taken away later, so he'd better be good. There are stakes now.
I am not disagreeing with you. Fact of the matter is 30% of this country is made up of a highly evangelical white base, some of whom have departed from their party for Obama (about 15-20% in white Virginia, if you can fucking believe that!). This 25-35% white evangelical\Protestant base, essentially derived from the influential works of John Nelson Darby and other dispensationalists, is a traditionally dominant and crucial voting base for which both parties have originally had to compete by building highly creative but volatile coalitions.
This election has been a watershed in that there was hardly any catering to this demographic by the Democrats except in local provincial elections, and even then just barely. Democrats in moderate-right districts with some evangelical crossovers simply abstained from voting in hotbed issues like abortion. A trick they learned from Obama himself, no doubt. Interestingly evangelicals did not oust a single first term Democrat in any conservative-leaning swing districts.
The progeny of the Dispensationalists are mainly confined to the Bible Belt but have hatcheries and strongholds across the country, especially in Southern California, Utah, Colorado, Texas, and large chunks of the midwest.
What we've scene are NEW demographics that Republicans didn't really see turning out so much, a revived and potent Progressive midwest party (these states gave the Roosevelts their belts).
I am very curious to see how this new Democratic coalition will last. Sure, we'll have to reach out to the fiscal conservatives a bit, but after Greenspan condemned his own policies, even fiscal conservatives are starting to get a little shaky about their beliefs.
Look at this... Basically this guy is reflecting what Obama is saying about a "bottom up" (demand side) model of capitalism, which is essentially a modern European style Socialist model, but in freemarketese and friendlier to Adam Smith types:
If the religion of the free market conservative can be swayed to a "21st century" model, as Obama so ingeniously demonstrated when he deflected the socialist attacks as being "from the 80's, from Ronald Reagan, failed policies," then I don't think we'll have to welcome the worst kinds of people that this country has to offer. Just send checks down to Oklahoma to keep them from dying and crying.
|Rodents of Unusual Size - 2008-11-05 |
FUCK YOU YOU WITHERING DODDERING MORON! FUCK YOU INFINITY! IN YOUR FUCKING FACE!!!!
Also, we're all proud to be a part of Obama winning, not just the blacks. I'm white and have never been more proud of any election in my lifetime.
FUCK YOU AGAIN oh wait you're trying to get people not to kill blacks. Well...okay, no fuck you for that.
People who liked this clip also liked "Go To Hell".
|DMKA - 2008-11-05 |
I love how people booed whenever he complimented or even mentioned Obama, yet in Obama's speech people cheered when Obama complimented McCain.
|StanleyPain - 2008-11-05 |
Fuck you McCain. Seriously. Fuck you.
Yeah, it was a gracious speech. It was well written, well delivered, well intentioned. And the words, by themselves, mean a lot.
But fuck the soulless, cowardly piece of shit who delivered them. You ran a campaign based almost solely towards the end, on creating a distrust and almost animalistic hatred of your opponent by freely letting your thug-like followers not only use racism as a tactic, but misinformation and flat-out lies. Not little dumbshit political lies where you fudge a little on some figures or cherry pick a few polls, but flat out goddamn lies. Whatever honor or respect you once held for your "Service" to America is shredded beyond recognition because of the depths to which you sank just to win a political office.
I am trying to live up to my own expectations and not gloat on the Obama victory to the Republicans I know, because I know they're people and they're hurting under Bush just like all of us, only they don't quite comprehend it that way. But you, you can go suck cocks in hell for willfully continuing the age of Swiftboating and utter degradation of the American political landscape.
Fuck you and your legions of racist, bigoted, misinformed, willfully ignorant supporters. You and your kind were delivered a message tonight: It might take a very long time and seem like a dark, dark road...but your kind are fading.. You are a dying breed.
|Merzbau - 2008-11-05 |
And cena_mark rode off into the night, ne'er to be seen again
No way. Faggot will be back reporting every fart, stain and whimper that any democrat makes anywhere in the entire world.
|RockBolt - 2008-11-05 |
NA NA NA NAAA NA NA NA NAAAA WAAAAAVE GOOODBYE
|spencer - 2008-11-05 |
a great bonus side-effect of obama winning: it helps validate high-road respectful campaigning, not only as the most dignified mode of conduct, but as a better strategy for victory.
Integrity: So Crazy It Just Might Work
Prior to this, almost the entire media somehow believed that Karl Rove was a genius for eking out a victory by 1 Supreme Court vote in 2000 and 10,000 Ohio regular voters in 2004. This idea was running to the base with gay marriage and using smear tactics was the way to win elections.
Well, good job Rove. You've clearly left the Republican Party in great shape.
It would have been a great coalition play IF Iraq had miraculously given us so much oil that we'd have barrels again and THEN we could ride a nice debt making Reagan era of prosperity again and Bush would probably be remembered as the greatest president that ever lived.
But that didn't happen.
|kiint - 2008-11-05 |
I bet he dies next month
|AgentOrange - 2008-11-05 |
Should've started in with the whole dignified statesman thing about six months ago.
|Hooker - 2008-11-05 |
I can understand and appreciate how McCain lost is way during the course of the election. I have more pity than hatred for his tragedy, and I think that was a very heartfelt speech that far exceeded my expectations.
Also, does the whiteout ever work?
|kelpfoot - 2008-11-05 |
This election had everything you'd want from a well-written soap opera.
|mouser - 2008-11-05 |
This video is perfect. With all the angry whiteys in the crow booing at Obama, all the scared white wimin crying and looking down to for years of huge cocks up their bigotry. It's a perfect demonstration of what failed USA in the past 8 years.
Compare with Obama's crowd. People are applauding McFries's effort to help his country the way he saw fit. People nodded and cheered for a respectful defeat of the walking zombie.
The two USA.
The world supports the victorious one.
Good luck Obama. Congratulations.
|mysterycar - 2008-11-05 |
way to desperately flail for posterity's approval. this was a great speech, but it all rings a bit hollow after the campaign he chose to run with
|Justin Dohrmann - 2008-11-05 |
Love it or leave it, white people.
|Chizmurder - 2008-11-05 |
Cry Palin..... CRRRRRYYYYYY!!!
|chumbucket - 2008-11-05 |
I really did shed a tear to hear how he spoke about Obama. Sadly, he gets it now.
|Blaise - 2008-11-05 |
Frankly the yahoos that make up the base of the Republican Party don't deserve McCain.
They do deserve Palin though.
Do you really think McCain sat back and watched helplessly as his campaign was hijacked by Palin and co.? I don't think so.
and a great Obama quote from the same article:
"...when Brian Williams is asking me about 'what's a personal thing that you've done that's green?', and I say, you know, 'Well, I planted a bunch of trees.' And he says, 'I'm talking about personal.' What I'm thinking in my head is, 'Well, the truth is, Brian, we can't solve global warming because I f---ing changed light bulbs in my house. It's because of something collective'."
|Xenocide - 2008-11-05 |
This speech encapsulates the real tragedy of McCain's campaign, not because of what he said but who he was saying it to. The sad repetitions of "please, please," as people angrily booed the very mention of Obama's name speak volumes. McCain never wanted a bunch of hateful, partisan wingnut hicks as his base. He realized too late that running as a Republican in 2008 means taking the lowest road possible, because that's where your base is.
Palin, who feels far more at home in the low road, where she is free to call people terrorists and socialists and whip up racial hatred as she sees fit, has inherited these idiots now. McCain is most likely glad to be rid of them.
In 2012 she'll split the guns-and-religion vote with Huckabee in the primaries and they'll both be out of it by whatever date turns out to be super tuesday that year.
|Vicious - 2011-02-28 |
Oh, you guys.
|Stopheles - 2011-05-28 |
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