|MongoMcMichael - 2010-01-30 |
No wonder all the smart Hoosiers move to New York.
|Riskbreaker - 2010-01-30 |
Something that helps the people? DUDE THAT'S A TOUGH ONE, GIME SOME ROOM TO THINK DAMMIT!
|cognitivedissonance - 2010-01-31 |
"Compromise" is Republican code for "NO COMPROMISE".
True compromise is when both parties think they're getting everything they want when the reality is no one gets anything.
|glasseye - 2010-01-31 |
When they act like whiny children they deserve to be shut out of the process. Compromise is great. Ranting and screaming when you don't get your way doesn't solve anything.
Well there's all those elections to consider.
The Dems fucked health care up. They had a fillibuster-proof majority in the Senate and they couldn't get a bill to the fucking floor. The health care companies spent billions of dollars on lobbyists to delay, delay, delay and it worked. Now the chance of real health care reform passing is barely alive. The GOP barely contributed.
Coming in very late to this discussion, but:
1) That "filibuster-proof majority" assumed that every Democrat, plus Sanders, plus Lieberman were on board. The problem wasn't the Democrats (all 58 of whom were on board) or Sanders, the problem was Lieberman, who had even campaigned against Obama, and was an occasional ally at best. We have Lieberman to thank for the lack of a Public Option; not Obama and not the Democrats, but Lieberman (plus every single Republican, I suppose).
2) You know what happened last time a President tried to dictate to Congress what health care reform should look like? That was HillaryCare and it went down, hard. Obama is smart enough to not make that mistake again; he provided parameters to what a successful health care bill should accomplish, and left it to Congress to find a way to get there that they could actually pass. ObamaCare may not be everything you want, but it DID manage to pass, by the narrowest of margins, and I'm not at all confident that whatever you personally wanted ("you" = "anyone reading this") would have made it through both chambers.
So if you want something better than ObamaCare, first elect the kind of Congress willing to pass something better. Step one is to toss out every Republican you possibly can; after that's done, improve the quality of the Democrats you put into office.
|longwinded - 2010-01-31 |
whirlwind of dissembling
|Aoi - 2010-01-31 |
The joke here being that Obama specifically singled out the "buy health care across state lines" idea as being rife with potential loopholes and abuses by the insurance industry, and thus not a workable idea without massive amounts of regulation and rules set in place before he'd seriously consider it.
But yeah, you work it, Mike.
(You dissembling douchebag.)
|memedumpster - 2010-01-31 |
Meanwhile in Total Honesty Universe...
"What compromise would you say yes to on health care?"
"Well, the poor and coloreds should be allowed to die of starvation, oh, and white is right."
"Oh, did I mention the European colonization method didn't go far enough?"
|pastorofmuppets - 2010-01-31 |
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