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Desc:Public Speaking at its finest
Category:Educational, Humor
Tags:holy shit, debate, Peter Schiff, Black on Black Crime, progressive stack
Submitted:Pillager
Date:01/05/17
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Caminante Nocturno
UH
Protoseth
Yelling as fast as possible while almost passing out seems to be tradition.

https://www.yout ube.com/watch?v=D7L5N3Jvg8A

https://www.youtu be.com/watch?v=ZShUHf0jLEA

https://www.youtub e.com/watch?v=6dTSQAuJNRs
gravelstudios
I feel these videos result in more questions than answers on my part.

chumbucket
Wow! Are these things judged by word count alone? I have NEVER known this was a thing.

TeenerTot
Whaaaa??????
TheyUsedDarkForces
Needs more party hats.
SolRo
Dupe and a submission from some racists channel. You're on a roll pillager!
Pillager
http://www.poetv.com/video.php?vid=_____

Fill in the blank my man. Also, clue me in on how it's racist. I just think the guys were robbed. That's all.

Bort
I've seen this video posted in a few places, and usually with the context of, "I'm not saying blacks are barely-human savages who can't form and express ideas. Of course, you can always look at this video and decide for yourself."

But I'm not going to jump to conclusions with Pillager.

Adham Nu'man
Look, there are plenty examples of GREAT SPEECHES written and delivered by African Americans, you don't have to feel guilty or embarassed to call this by its name: Shit.

Bort
Gotta agree with Adham. I've seen defenses of these speakers along the lines of, they're demonstrating their inventiveness and ability to transcend the formality of rules. Which is fine as far as it goes, which happens to be not very far at all. You're not a chessmaster just because you've decided the horsey piece can breathe fire and do three attacks per round (two hooves, one bite).

So, it could be that Pillager is posting this here because it is legitimately awful "debate" and nothing more. But I've seen it posted as an example of the inferiority of blacks, so we will see.

Adham Nu'man
Reading up on this a little and watching Protoseth's links above. Debate competitions devolved to shit years ago: it is common practice to just mumble on incoherently as fast as you can and going entirely off topic.

Yes, what is seen in this video IS shit, but this type of shit has been going on for a looooooong time now and it only gets attention and widesdpread outrage now that for the first time it's a couple of black women who win...

:(

Oscar Wildcat
I've not the patience this morning to look, but yeah this thing has been here before. If you find the link, someone in the comments explains this is SOP for college debating because of the way scoring is done ( the more you squeeze in, the more points you get, hence the hyperventilating screeds ).

Is it insane? Yes, but consider how it matches up to real world debating, where you make the facts up as you go along and sling mud until you win. By comparison, it seems downright civil. Is it any surprise that our best and brightest are having some difficulty making civil society work? Given how this is their training?

15th
>>So, it could be that Pillager is posting this here because it is legitimately awful "debate" and nothing more. But I've seen it posted as an example of the inferiority of blacks, so we will see.


This a pretty funny and absurd slice of life, but sorry Pillager, I'm going to have to put you on the watch list. Shitty people may have gotten something else out of the video.

Bort
The previous link:

http://www.poetv.com/video.php?vid=141833

It wasn't tagged worth shit.

Also, EvilHomer nailed it in the previous clip (yes I've unblocked him and am glad I did):

"Yet even I noted the racist undertones of *this* videoclip! This video is edited in such a way as to diminish clarity and to over-emphasize (almost pornographically so) the young lady's use of the word "nigga". Definitely racist."

Two Jar Slave
Was it not the news channel's edit?

Bort
It looks much more to me like someone took a conventional interview with the girls at the station, and then interspersed clips from the debate to "prove" how inarticulate the girls actually were.

Personally I can't see any reason anyone would have made such an edit except to "prove" blacks can't debate and instead devolve into gibbering savages.

Two Jar Slave
Ah, you're probably right.

I was happy to chuckle at how stupid this debate looks. That said, enough people are picking up on a racial angle to convince me it's in there. But if this really is the current state of formal debate, I'm dying to see more. Can we get some noncontroversial vids to laugh at up in here?

Bort
"I was happy to chuckle at how stupid this debate looks."

I really can't fault you for that, because goddamn, they aren't communicating their ideas well, or at least not on frequencies I am receiving on.

I need some precisely-enunciated British sarcasm to cleanse my palate, have some Mitchell and Webb:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66SQKEf7UIs

15th
Black people can't be stupid and ridiculous too. If you find this problematic, maybe it's because you're not truly seeing your equals.

Make sure to downvote the kidnapping video while you're at it. The one that would have flown out in 10 minutes if the races and political parties were reversed - that would have made a wonderful circle J.
bawbag
You mean the NSFW and graphic kidnapping video with fairly obvious BENNR 'WE WUZ KANGS' racial dogwhistle shit right in the fucking description or the other one posted with the RoUS-standard 'SEE BLACKS CAN BE RACIST TOO!!1' bullshit in the description?

Which one do you think would have got out much quicker from the hopper in your hypothetical 'omg what a twist, if only the races were switched' scenario?

bawbag
Also, a quick look at either the kidnapping or torture tags on PoETV would disabuse you of the notion that we'd all be so fucking happy to upvote a video of white people torturing black folk, but don't let that get in the way of a good old fashioned 'racial double standards hurrf blurrf' angle.

Bort
I note that both 15th and Pillager upvoted that video in the hopper (while you (bawbag) and SolRo downvoted it). I upvoted it because, all right, let's have this argument -- I want to hear 15th's and Pillager's fascinating insights into the state of race in America.

15th
>>You mean the NSFW and graphic kidnapping video

Bawbag, you posted a video of someone getting shot in the back a few days ago, remember? Let's not pretend to pearl clutch, this clip was on local news.

>>fairly obvious BENNR 'WE WUZ KANGS'

Are you really offended by that, I mean really?

The kidnapping clip doesn't say anything interesting about race relations in America, only people's reaction to it. It's just a group of bad people doing something awful.

I would bet the farm that yes, if it had been Trump supporters abusing a minority it wouldn't be controversial and you'd feel reaffirmed that America is going to hell. It still wouldn't 'prove' anything. I just believe the proper response to racially charged violence is disgust limited to the perpetrators actually involved. That's it.

I don't think the kidnapping clip is important news, at all. It's just that some people feel the need to never stop towing the ideological line, sometimes at the cost of intellectual honesty.

15th
>>I want to hear 15th's and Pillager's fascinating insights into the state of race in America.

Treat people the way you'd like to be treated. Hold no double standards and try not to generalize. That's about all you can do on an individual level. I don't think I'm qualified to sum up race relations as a whole, sorry.

SolRo
"Are you really offended by that, I mean really?"

the fact that you don't care about a blatant hardcore racist spreading dog whistle videos over this site to 'prove' his white supremacy says everything about you that some of us already know

15th
Yeah, what's that? Closet Nazi?


Lighten up, you humorless twat.

SolRo
15th; 'I find racism funny'

15th
"I Hate Latinos" - Soiro

bawbag
"pearl clutch" and "offended" wew.

*Clap*

*Clap*

*Clap*

Hell, toss a 'triggered' or 'free speech' in there too while you're making dumb redditor-level responses 15th.

15th
Offended is a buzzword? I'm not the greatest debater, and I hammer out a lot of opinions and thoughts here in real-time. I'm wrong a lot, but I at least try to consider things objectively, at least as an exercise. RIP EH

But, I don't I'm too far off base on the idea of trying not to use individuals' bad behavior as political fodder - for either side of the aisle.

Soiro played the secret racist card, you golf clapped. So, maybe I'm getting better?

Doc Victor
They have a bright future ahead as auctioneers in any case.
Caminante Nocturno
Especially if we change the name of our currency from dollars to UHs.

Miss Henson's 6th grade class
I would totally be down with spending a few UHs.

Monkey Napoleon
Oooooo girl, u triggerin me!

You have to go to a school to learn it, and you won't find regular work doing it without a degree and usually an apprenticeship. It's actually deceptively involved. Mastering the "heebada jeebada 5 biddily widdily 10" part of it is a very small part of what goes into it.

I worked as a clerk in a livestock auction yard for several years, and I've had to take the brunt of shit you get when your auctioneer isn't on top of their game.

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