|Meerkat - 2017-12-04 |
That planet is small enough to turn into a lizard and fuck Janeway!
Binro the Heretic
I heard about that episode, but I had stopped watching after the episode where the children turned out to be old people from an alien species that aged backwards.
|Raggamuffin - 2017-12-04 |
failure in the premise right off the jump: Why would I be watching Voyager in the first place?
|chumbucket - 2017-12-04 |
Jesus Christ Trek fans, just stop. Try this level of analysis for the opening for Miami Vice.
Just started re-watching this series as I've been working my way through watching every episode/movie in production sequence. While it's not a great entry in the entire set of Trek stuff, it's not the worst show ever.
Chicken the Did
It's pretty bad. Right off the bat you have a race a people who are considered on the genetic and social level to be irredeemable. 'Space orcs' who consume everything and produce nothing. As these were inspired by LA Street gangs according to the creators let's get some 90's style low key racism in there. Even worse the Voyager crew has an episode where they sorta try and help them with their problems but completely give up on them entirely because they are depicted as too stupid to get it.
Voyager's greatest sin is its failure to take advantage of its premise. You know how, on DS9, there was a fair amount of tension between the Star Fleet and Bajoran security forces on the station, at least early on? Eventually that tension was pretty much resolved in favor of Star Fleet, but on "Voyager" that tension could/should have led to a different command structure, where Maquis and Star Fleet both had representation. (Chakotay doesn't count, he was way too Star Fleety from day one.) A lot of re-evaluation of Star Fleet principles, a little bit of blatant Prime Directive violation because the situation requires it, and so on.
Not that they don't cross the line on the Prime Directive on a regular basis, but they rarely made a lasting impact on other cultures. There was one exception on "Voyager" that I liked, though. I think the episode was called "The Void", where Voyager was caught in a region of space where the subspace tachyon matrix was beep boop etc. There were a few other ships caught there too, plus there was a humanoid species native to the void, that lived as scavengers. They had no way to speak, but Seven of Nine realized that they have working ears and were fast learners, so she figured out that, if you give them tablets, they can use the tablets to make noises and thus give them a way to talk to each other. Very quickly the scavengers started working in cooperative fashion, and odds are the tablets revolutionized their society.
Yeah real early they are breaking Prime Directive and Starfleet protocols but I rationalize some of it based on the fact that Voyager is basically "off mission" and out of contact with Starfleet, therefore directives kind of step aside ONLY if they conflict with the goal of returning the ship back to Starfleet controlled space. Yeah, it's flimsy, so is the whole premise of the show, but I do find it entertaining.
"As these were inspired by LA Street gangs according to the creators let's get some 90's style low key racism in there."
You know how bad crime is in the Delta Quadrant? One time on an away mission, the locals stole Neelix's lungs. That's right, THEY STOLE HIS LUNGS.
About 90s violent crime: we didn't know it at the time, but there's a strong chance that urban violent crime had been on the upswing for so long because residents were hotboxing leaded exhaust fumes as children. The problem peaked in the early 1990s -- adults who were kids in 1970 or so -- and then started going down, because the EPA's cracking down on leaded gas in the 1970s was finally resulting in inner-city kids growing up without brain damage.
|duck&cover - 2017-12-04 |
It was either this planet, or the one with the screaming sun.
Because Cobworld is OFF THE TABLE.
|yogarfield - 2017-12-04 |
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Please over-analyze these five brown stars.
|Oktay - 2017-12-04 |
Boy, I really hope someone got fired for that blunder.
That planet never worked in Hollywood again.
I hear the planet is now a right-wing pundit on a local AM radio station somewhere in the midwest. He regularly goes on a tangent about how Hollywood never gives him any work because of his conservative views.
|Xenocide - 2017-12-04 |
Welcome to my 17-hour lecture on the original Tiny Toon Adventures theme song. At this point all exits have been sealed and will not be opened until tomorrow. A communal bucket has been provided for everyone's bathroom needs. It will not be replaced so please use it wisely.
Now, at precisely 22 seconds into the intro, Buster and Babs stand in front of a map of their hometown, while singing the line "Now here's Acme Acres/it's a whole wide world apart." However, the layout of this map conflicts STRONGLY with the layout implied by the events of several episodes, such as episode 5F04 where Hampton is shown to be able to bicycle to school in only 12 minutes despite the map showing his home to be on the other side of town. There is NO EXPLANATION for this unforgivable inconsistency. Furthermore, in season 12, episode 9 there is a scene where the
I'm here for the full lecture Professor Xenocide.
Someone pass the bucket, we're here for the long haul.
|Seven Arts/H8 Red - 2017-12-04 |
After watching this, I want Star Trek openings to have MORE drop shadows - maybe move the starships like Star Trek: The Animated Series did. Now THAT'S grandeur.
|Bort - 2017-12-05 |
More shenanigans on that planet:
|memedumpster - 2017-12-05 |
This is excellent, and I have some further topic suggestions of things about Star Trek wrongness.
Romulan Warbirds : 984 meters or 1385 meters, why is Star Trek so broken!
Talarian Mourning Song : It's just basset hound noises, fuck Star Trek!
Lore Is Woke : Why Data is Soong's racist caricature of Lore.
Transporter Room 3 : Is not on deck seven, you pigfucking fascists!!1111!!
'All Good Things' Warp Scale : Shits on Roddenberry's warp 10 dreams!
Patrick Stewart Can't Direct : Not really a topic, just an observation...
Stardates : What the fuck, these things are almost random!
Therapy : Needs to be free for rage nerds.
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