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Desc:Mahmoud Ahmadinejad speaks at Columbia University (sept 24, 2007)
Category:News & Politics
Tags:Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Columbia
Submitted:halon
Date:09/25/07
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halon
Is there a reason this got 1 star? Video quality is good, audio is fine, and it's about a relevant current event.
jrr
Probably the JEWZ keeping him down.

simon666
what a goof this guy is. glad we weren't stupid enough to prevent ourselves from hearing what he had to say in his own words.


Stopheles
Something this relevant and debate-provoking deserves an average of nothing less than five stars.
zatojones
Sometimes a dude claiming with a straight face that there are exactly zero gays in his country also deserves five

Roachbud
Seriously, what is so wrong with this guy? I mean, yes he's a bastard, but then so is every other leader of every other country in the world.
simon666
his answers are shite. and please don't make me give examples either. if you can't figure it out, i think the responsibility to understand how lies with you.

also just in case: saying someone other world leader gives shite answers, in response to what i've said, is not an argument in why ahmadinejad is not retarded, but rather evidence of other leaders being retards also.

simon666
lies with you? lays with you i think is the proper tense.

Roachbud
That's my whole point: he's a piece of shit in a mountain of shit

simon666
blah, didn't get it first reading =/

mr666
So Roachbud doesn't know what is so bad about Ahmandinejad, huh? Ignorance must be bliss.

crote
Roach:

Because, while most world leaders are absolute bastards (they are politicians after all), not all of them deny the holocaust or pretend gays don't exist in their country.

Roachbud
They would if it won them votes like it does for Ahmadinijad. I'm pretty sure there are some douchebag members of Congress who don't think there's gays in their district

Roachbud
mr666, I know plenty about world affairs, it's just that the only reason this guy gets villified so much is because of President Bush's bullshit 2002 State of the Union speech and AIPAC. There's plenty of other complete douchebags in the who Americans never read about because they're our douchebags.

Roachbud
Short List: House of Saud, Nursultan Nazarbayev, Hosni Mubarak, Pervez Musharaf.

Roachbud
Plus back in history: THE SHAH OF IRAN.

EvilHomer
"There's plenty of other complete douchebags in the who Americans never read about because they're our douchebags."

Hey roach, I've been wondering... what part of the country are you from, exactly? I don't know if it's edgy or subversive to know who the Shah of Iran, the Saudi Royal Family, and Pervez Musharaf are where you live, but here in the Northeast, pretty much everyone with any inclination towards politics knows who those people are. I mean, I hear all these horror stories about how "everyone west of Manhattan is a complete and total mouthbreathing fuckwit", but I've always just assumed that was nothing more than arrogant liberal rich kid talk- "Boy! Americans sure are stupid! Lucky thing I'm smarter than the rest of those sheep, cuz I read Chomsky and Zinn! Baaaaa!"

Is it true? Are the majority of people outside my cloistered blue-state world REALLY that dumb, that they don't know who the Sauds are?

Roachbud
Maybe I said the wrong thing, I was drunk. Thanks for pointing out how I left "world" out of that sentence, really helpful. What I meant was people don't believe those other dictators are evil. The only reason they bitch and moan at Ahmadinejad is because they're leaders tell them too, bababa. I don't follow the whole nationalism thing, since I can't relate to 300 million people spread across 1/3 a continent. Everybody who every screwed me was American, every asshole I ever met was American. Amadinejad never "called me nigger," to quote Mohammed Ali. I gurantee you most people don't know who the Sauds are much less Nazarbayev, most Americans have no idea who Condoleeza Rice is. I live in DC, but grew up in Maine, which is hardly a center of intellectualism.

EvilHomer
"Everybody who every screwed me was American, every asshole I ever met was American."

You should really get out of the country sometime, then. If the only people you've ever screwed are Americans, then you're merely sampling the wonderous buffet of life.

"What I meant was people don't believe those other dictators are evil."

Well, YOU clearly do. Or are you the sole exception to the rule?

And please, everyone knows who Condi is. She's that colored gal with the skimpy clothes what's got the show on BET.

Roachbud
I wasn't talking about sex, I am an American, I've lived here for all but 7 months of my life. Everyone who ever did anything bad to me was an American, every asshole I ever met was an American. This is a country of 300 million people spread across a continent. The notion of nation's was cooked up in 1648 to give Bourgeouis traders less taxes and to make the working class hate people in other countries so they'd be more vicious in wars. Fuck nations, tribes and all that shit. I don't care if Bush, Pelosi and Rice say this douchebag in the video is evil. To me he's just one of countless evil pricks roaming the world and making others bend to their will. Thanks for proving my point about how stupid Americans are too.

Valkor
Best. Troll. Ever.

mr666
Judging by roachbuds idea of how nations came about, I can see that someone needs a history class. Badly.

Roachbud
I got a 5 on both AP history tests without studying and majored in political science. My ideas aren't all that new, they were articulated first in 1848 by one Karl Marx. The 1648 reference is to the Peace of Westphalia that set up the modern European state with sovreignty from Rome.

mr666
If I were you, I wouldn't willingly compare my ideas to Karl Marx, but to each his own, I suppose.

Roachbud
I'll admit the system he envisioned turned into a monstrosity, but a lot of his ideas on history aren't that far off. Class struggle has led to some of the biggest changes.

EvilHomer
Ah, so these "AP history exams" you "took" and the fact you "steal Marx's ideas" are what makes you the exception to the rule that no Americans know a thing about The Truth, right? Well, I must say, that's really cool! Who would have thought that a hip-hop loving white kid from Maine would wind up talking about class struggle and how much he hates "tribes" over the internet? You're like Hemingway, Engels, and Dragonguyver, all rolled into one.

Do you do the lecture circuit? I'd love to come sit in on some of your talks- and hey, if you let me in for free, I might even be able to hook you up with this French girl I know. French! Eh? Eh?

x
Maine's state bird is the chickadee.

Oh, yeah, Ahmadinejad is a homophobic religious zealot who is planning his domestic and foreign agendas based on the return of the 12th Imam.

LetsFistAgain
I no longer have any idea of what the fuck you two are talking about.

Hooker
Ahmadinejad translated by a woman is pretty funny.
papercut_junky
and let us all hope and pray that that woman is jewish and lesbian, just as icing on the cake... mmm gay jew cake

Frank Rizzo
gay jew cake, isnt that adam sandler?

papercut_junky
Adam Sandler is Jewish?

Enjoy
Every hollywood comedian is

jmags
Todays New York Daily News front page: "Cynical, surly, sullen, arrogant and dodging every crucial question. . ."


Sound like any other world leaders you can think of?

EvilHomer
Ooo! Ooo! I know! President Armando Guebuza of Mozambique- talk about a WEASEL.

PegLegPete
There are so many things wrong with that speech It'd take hours to break it down. But I see Ahmadinejad is just as skilled at shilling bullshit as our president. His vague statements were the best. This clip depressed me deeply.
bizzaro
5 stars, i wish you could only post once in these comments, like 2 months ago, that would be much more efficient to keep out lamers like roach

Roachbud
There's a reason for the reply button, it's so I can defend myself against lamers like you

LetsFistAgain
Judging from all the butthurt on this page im quite frankly scared. Scared that only four years later Bush is going to sell another Iraq and people will swallow it. Iran has of course no Nuclear Weapons at this point, Ahmadinejad has flip-flopped on the holocaust*
And of course never said that Israel should be wiped of the map*






* http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2007/09/24/2007-09-24_irans_presid ent_i_dont_deny_holocaust-3.html

* http://www.antiwar.com/orig/norouzi.php?articleid=11025
minimalist
People aren't swallowing it, though. Polls indicate that most are against going after Iran, just as much as they're in opposition to the Iraq war now.

And before some 3dgemeister says "well, what the people want never mattered before to the Bu$h administration", just remember that overwhelming public opposition shut down Social Security reform, and Cheney could have bombed Iran months ago if he felt he had more support than not. So I'm hopeful, but still wary of course.

Roachbud
Plus the neocons have all been replaced by Bush I's boys such as Sec Def Robert Gates, who were mostly opposed to the Iraq war and would never let Georgie go into Iran.

papercut_junky
Just a question.... I know that "vanish from the page of time" is the litteral translation of what he said, misquoted as "wiped off the map", but when a Persian says that something should "vanish from the page of time", what does he mean? Is "vanish from the page of time" a common saying? Is "wiped off the map" as bad a conceptual translation as it is a literal translation?

Roachbud
I wasn't talking about sex, I am an American, I've lived here for all but 7 months of my life. Everyone who ever did anything bad to me was an American, every asshole I ever met was an American. This is a country of 300 million people spread across a continent. The notion of nation's was cooked up in 1648 to give Bourgeouis traders less taxes and to make the working class hate people in other countries so they'd be more vicious in wars. Fuck nations, tribes and all that shit. I don't care if Bush, Pelosi and Rice say this douchebag in the video is evil. To me he's just one of countless evil pricks roaming the world and making others bend to their will. Thanks for proving my point about how stupid Americans are too.
simon666
oh btw, iran wants both to seem strong in the world AND be the victim of the american imperialists. can't have it both ways. you are either big and strong, or you can be bullied. US = big and strong. Iran = not so much. the end.
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