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Category:Educational, Science & Technology
Tags:skeptic, Steve Novella, skeptics guide to the universe, dr. oz, Mehmet Oz
Submitted:Albuquerque Halsey
Date:04/30/11
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freedoom
Man i really don't like this guy.
IrishWhiskey
Fuck Dr. Oz. This entire debate is framed as "Doctors are rejecting alternative medicine because they are narrow minded" from the beginning, and they chop and splice interviews from actual doctors to change what they actually said to it the narrative.

This quack actually manages to outdo some creationists is his disdainful disregard to logic and facts in order to fit his preordained conclusion.

IrishWhiskey
I'm not kidding about the Creationist insane troll logic by they way. The part that made me rage-quit is at 10:45 -

Dr. Novella is asked his views on acupuncture and says:
'Look, I've studied this in trials extensively, and if there was any measurable positive effect, I would recommend it totally. But there isn't. No studies ever show any. Its basic risk versus benefit. The minor placebo effect is not worth the risk of needle infection or the time and money that could be spent on real treatment.'

Oz: 'There are billions of people who use acupuncture as the basis of ancient Chinese medicine, and I think its dismissive and arrogant of you to say it can't be effective because it doesn't fit into how we think of medicine in the West.'

Dr Novella. 'Actually I didn't dismiss it, or assume it didn't work. I went out and did the science and found empirically that it doesn't work. If it did, I would totally except it.'

Oz: 'Well you're wrong because you won't be able to see that they work, unless you already have the mindset and assumptions that already believe they work.'

Syd Midnight
If only there was some super extra powerful kind of medicine that works whether you believe in it or not. That would be so much better!

gmol
The world is an evil evil place. A Harvard trained with a reasonable critical thinking ability can become famous and influential, and still not give a basic honest perspective to his viewers.
Severian
I think I will get too angry if I watch. Plenty of following info at http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org


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