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Desc:The students had come to talk to the senate about their concerns regarding education cuts.
Category:News & Politics, Educational
Tags:iowa, State Senate, Shawn Hammerlinck, deaf ears
Submitted:Xiphias
Date:06/09/11
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Comment count is 33
SteamPoweredKleenex
"I don't like you lobbying me. Unless you have money to give me. Any money? We got the supreme court to rule that's free speech, so... any money? No? Oh, you're peasants, then? Uh-huh, we don't listen to those, so if you'd just fuck off, that'd be great.

Now, anyone out there with some money and no whiny problems about us giving more tax cuts to the rich? Anyone?"
charmlessman
Teach me to go make lunch then come back to post my comment before refreshing.

SteamPoweredKleenex
I don't doubt he says a lot of stuff like this; we're just transcribing, not re-posting. :)

chumbucket
"don't worry yourselves about what we're doing up here, even though it directly impacts you...go home and play xbox"
charmlessman
"I hate it when my constituents actually want something. If you're going to bug me, send a lobbyist with a briefcase full of cash, ok?"
Xenocide
Nothing annoys Senator Hammerlinck more than democracy.
Caminante Nocturno
Nothing annoys republicans in general more than democracy.

Senator_Unger
Republicans love democracy, as long as the results are exactly what they want. For example, 2008 = Marxist Fraud! 2010 = Will Of The People!

simon666
Official parting remarks from the students ought to have been a rhetorical question: "Who the fuck do you think you are?" or I suppose to stay classy "To whom the fuck do you think you speak?"
StanleyPain
The fact that I'm gutting educational institutions to help give more tax cuts to the rich has no effect on you whatsoever and nothing to do with you. If you'd all just go back to your drinking.

Innocent Bystander
Representational democracy schlepresentational blemocracy.
SteamPoweredKleenex
That needs to be on an official seal somewhere.

simon666
Representational democracy schadenfreudal democracy.

The Mothership
Fuck him.
cognitivedissonance
"Behold, our butter stinketh!— give us therefore, butter that stinketh not."
Macho Nacho
What a dickwad.
RomancingTrain
Putting a Republican in charge of the education budget is like putting a fat person in charge of you buffet.
Zarathustra00
I think that can be said about putting Republicans in charge of any group or task. I mean, we left it to them to select a Republican presidential candidate and look what happened last time and is happening now.

fatatty
Look, we all know public education is socialism so therefore all students are communists.
Fezren
Supposedly this is a response, and I would really like to hear what I assume was a speech delivered in advance of this recording on behalf of the student representatives.

To me, this response sounds like a polite way of saying the following:

"While I'm sure it was very exciting for you as your first forray into politics, you have failed to present any new arguments or information. Nothing you have presented today is original material. Because of this, you have wasted not only my time and your time, but taxpayer money as well."

I imagine this isn't the first group of idealists this senator has dealt with that, despite asking super nicely, and using puppy-dog eyes, have done nothing besides waste time and taxpayer money.

Now say what you will about alleged monetary lobbyist kick-backs and even the subject matter of the proposed budget cuts. If kick-backs are accepted, that is definitely not OK, and I don't have a stance on the budget cuts because I'm not Ohioan and I haven't read the proposal.

I certainly don't have a problem with a senator telling a bunch of students that their pointless, time-wasting lobbying is pointless and time-wasting.

As for the rudeness, I would rather my representatives were rude and direct than diplomatic and ambiguous. That's just my two cents.
Caminante Nocturno
That's a lot of words just to admit you're a stupid piece of shit.

Toenails
"The students were invited to the Capitol as part of “Open Budget Hearings.” The goal of the hearings was to hear feedback from Iowans impacted by the proposed budget cuts, including the effects of what some have described as the Republican’s “two-year starvation diet for Iowa schools"

-http://bit.ly/lkgXNj

So you're saying the college students are wasting the senator's time when the meeting was specifically set up to explore how they are affected by budget cuts? Is that what that wall of text is trying to convey?

SteamPoweredKleenex
"As for the rudeness, I would rather my representatives were rude and direct than diplomatic and ambiguous."

Then you should enjoy this: Fuck off.

memedumpster
Idealists would have burned that fucking place down and dragged that sonofabitch into the street and lynched him.

Stop being such a Tom Hanks.

Fezren
Nice source there, Iowa State Democrats.

Here's another article, and a quote.

"Students across Iowa spoke Monday at the Senate Education Committee meeting, conveying their experiences of budget cuts in Iowa’s education system. Some legislators, however, found these voices irrelevant and unimportant; Republican Sen. Shawn Hamerlinck told students flat-out that their lobbying was “political propaganda.”

http://www.dailyiowan.com/2011/06/09/Opinions/23612.html

I do find it odd that the recording doesn't include the speeches by the students.
Fezren
meant as a reply ^^

Toenails
So the fact that the meeting was set up (by the Democrats I may add) to discuss how people are affected by the cuts to the Regents is somehow bad information because it came from the Iowan Democratic website?

While we are bad mouthing sources, why did you cite an Opinion piece (that even supports the students) when it links to the actual article?

http://www.dailyiowan.com/2011/06/07/Metro/23578.html

Jet Bin Fever
Stupid students always caring about their issues and stuff! Arg, if only they were passive baby boomers.
Robin Kestrel
And what's even more fucked up about this is that those students were *invited* there specifically to give feedback. Hamerlinck (one "m") shows them nothing but contempt.

http://www.senate.iowa.gov/democrats/republican-message-to-stu dents-shut-up/

The students were invited to the Capitol as part of “Open Budget Hearings.” The goal of the hearings was to hear feedback from Iowans impacted by the proposed budget cuts, including the effects of what some have described as the Republican’s “two-year starvation diet for Iowa schools.”

The students testified that the Republicans’ proposed budget cuts making higher education unaffordable for many students and their families, increase class sizes, and reduce course offerings.

Michael Appel, a student at the University of Iowa who spoke at the meeting, says, “It’s important for everyone to have a voice when big decisions that affect thousands of individuals are taking place. Today was unfortunate; it was a rude display of behavior by a state leader. In these difficult times, it is important for all to be respectful and hear each other so everyone can make educated decisions, which is why Executive Council of Graduate and Professional Students will continue to communicate with all state, community, and student leaders throughout this year.”
Rodents of Unusual Size
This says so much in such a short span. Way to kill their belief in democracy.
TeenerTot
Young people taking an interest in civic proceedings? We can't have that.
That guy
But if we have "people" participating, who will protect the true minority of elites??
Dib
Five stars for reps we don't even need to Google to guess their party affiliation.
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