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Desc:Did you know that Jews and Christians don't have religious laws?
Category:News & Politics, Religious
Tags:islam, ignorance, bigotry, illogical arguments, What 1st Amendment?
Submitted:IrishWhiskey
Date:07/18/11
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themilkshark
He's a dumbass.
Caminante Nocturno
Every time he talks, it's like a baby urping, except with words instead of breast milk.
longwinded
at 1:12 he says "that's not descriminating based upon reli... against (blah blah)" - he knows what he's saying is obviously false and he decides to double down anyway
citrusmirakel
"That's not discriminating against a religion... Okay, yes. Obviously it is discriminating against a religion, but my point remains: Fuck 'em!"

Xenocide
"Sharia Law" seems to be Cain's go-to buzzword for excusing Islamophobia. I have yet to see anyone ask him to explain exactly what Sharia Law is. When they do, it's going to be a trainwreck.
IrishWhiskey
He says they can ban the mosque to keep out Sharia law, about 10 seconds after Chris pointed out that there already is a mosque there, and obviously no Sharia law.

It's pretty much identical to the discrimination that used to be common against Catholics, and now is confined to the evangelical far right. Kennedy had to defend himself against charges he'd bow to 'Papal law' rather than American law. Ignoring that the people making these charges have church doctrines they take even more seriously, and have no compunctions about trying to replace American law with.

Dinesh D'Souza, darling of the right, wrote books about how the religious right and muslim extremists have so much in common that we should pass evangelical religious laws restricting gays, abortion and women's rights to make them like us more. His Colbert Report interview is a hoot.

memedumpster
Whenever anyone says "the people" they never mean the people.
TheSupafly
This is my dad's favorite guy. He calls him an underdog candidate =/. He is generic republican only with a truckload of bigotry and ignorance. And apparently being the former CEO of a major corporation is a big plus.
Cena_mark
I understand your dad's point of view. Republicans respcect CEOs because they are proven leaders. They're people who have worked their way to the top. We respect the successful college dropouts compared to the graduates who've accomplished little in comparison.
I respect Herman Cains accomplishments and I love him on the radio. He'd often cover for Neal Boortz when he was away. However I do hate to see him embarrassing himself with the Islamicphobic nonsense. The very fact that he can't admit that they deserve the same 1st Amendment rights as you and I is quite awful.
So at this point I doubt I'd vote for him.

SolRo
By "worked" do you mean kissed ass and backstabbed?

He ran an insignificant pizza chain that almost no one knew of until it was mentioned as part of his "accomplishments" this year. Hell, I've seen a resteraunt while driving, I didn't even know it was a pizza place.

You don't respect college dropouts either, you're just trying to vicariously live through them. Through these impossibly lucky and/or family installed CEOs you're desperately imagining that your failed education will end up in success instead of uneducated manual labor or a grunts' career in the military for the rest of your miserable life.

It merges with your kinds obsession with getting or preserving tax cuts for the rich, because in your rotting minds you think you will at some point be in that tax bracket.

Cena_mark
Herman Cain had very humble beginnings and he ran much more than Godfathers Pizza.
I am actually a college graduate. And I don't grunt. Now I don't think I'm going to be rich. I'd happily retire Coast Guard. My views on tax breaks for the rich doesn't stem from delusions of myself getting rich someday. Its that I know such tax cuts create jobs.
Its you liberals who have a delusional view of the rich. All you want to do is steal their wealth through taxes and you justify it by saying they lied, cheated, and stole their way to the top. Or it wasn't that they worked 80 hour weeks to get on top, no they just got lucky. Its you libs who are ruled by envy. You'd rather everybody be equally poor than to have some people be wealthy and the rest living comfortably.
Don't look in the next man's pocket. You'll be much happier.

memedumpster
Whoa, he ran Godfathers Pizza?

Innocent Bystander
"You'd rather everybody be equally poor than to have some people be wealthy and the rest living comfortably."

Yes. I'm sure people working minimum wage or homeless are quite comfortable. I'd also like to hear your reasoning on how paying CEO's eight figures somehow creates jobs, or rather, what jobs would go uncreated if corporate executives weren't I-wipe-my-ass-with-money rich.

jangbones
Anyone who has actually spent any time around real CEOs and corporate executives knows the reality of the situation.

Half of them are overeducated and undersmart, intellectually incurious and dull, having gotten their position through nepotism.

The other half are amoral sharks who have gotten their positions by manipulating the first subset and taking advantage of any and every person they could. Their defining characteristic is their complete lack of empathy and their complete willingness to lie.

Corporatization is anathema to productivity. If you measured the productivity and value-to-the-company of twenty corporate executives against ten of their non-executive employees, the ten employees would slaughter the executives without breaking a sweat.

Also, Hermain Cain's corporate record has one success and about five giant failures. He has the communication skills of Donald Trump, the ability to instill false confidence in him with his words and not with any of his achievements or real qualifications. He's a flash in the pan, the distraction from the real battle for the 2012 nom, which will be rushing-to-the-center Mitt Romney versus whoever the Tea Party embraces, which was never ever ever going to be a black man.

Xenocide
Republicans love Cain because he pulled himself up from "humble beginnings," which is fine, but if you point out that President Obama did too, they always come up with some excuse for why that somehow doesn't count. Or they mock him for going into education and community organizing, as if these are somehow less noble paths than making the shitty pizza you find under heating lamps at 7-11.

IrishWhiskey
Cain seriously proposed making all laws in the US no longer than three pages.

This is the intellectual equivalent of a child asking 'Why don't planes just pick us up form our houses, so we don't have to wait at the airport.' It's only appealing to people who don't have the slightest clue how their government actually works or care enough to find out.


Cena_mark
English Tea, Laws would be better off being less than 3 pages. The fact that some of them are hundreds of pages attests to the fact that laws are used to piggy back pork and other bullshit.
Xenophobe, Community organizing doesn't make anybody money. We want the president to have a decent understanding of the economy, we want them to have done some work in the private sector. It makes Obama like a college professor who never left academia, no life experience.
Jangboner, Just more stereotypes and hating. And the tea party loves Herman Cain and guess what? He's black. Much blacker than Obama.
Guilty Suspect, you know I don't give a shit about the homeless, and min wage is for kids and old people.

IrishWhiskey
Seriously, that statement shows as much ignorance as to government powers as saying 'why don't you just fix the dashboard gas gauge to the top, then I can drive around without ever needing a refill!"

Think for a second. To change the behavior of government agencies, the President can simply order it through his executive powers and appointments. Congress needs to pass specific instructions through law, and are generally constitutionally forbidden from ceding those powers to a designee. The effect of that bill would be to hand Obama full control of most of our government, while neutering Congress' ability to control his behavior. It would do nothing to limit spending, but do everything to stop Congress from controlling how money is spent.

If it were actually passed, all Congress would do is pass a bill in a thousand little steps. Which we already have. They're called draft versions of bills, and amendments. Stapling them all together is a good idea. And I guarantee that most Cain supporters haven't bothered to read short summaries of legislation by the CBO or others, easily available free online. It appeals to people who want to shrink government without considering the consequences, and knee-jerk anti-intellectuals who think that informed and complicated debate is worse that blind certainty and easy answers.

Scrotum H. Vainglorious
"I am actually a college graduate"

With a degree in journalism, just like Sarah Palin.

minimalist
"Hermain Cain's corporate record has one success and about five giant failures."

Well, keep in mind that when Cena_mark said "Republicans respcect CEOs because they are proven leaders" he really meant "Republicans blindly worship power"

hope this helps
Robin Kestrel
Chris Rock was right.
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