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Desc:5K in Kickstarter funds raised for a sleep mask with LED's in it.
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Tags:dreams, mask, boondoggle, lucid dreaming
Submitted:baleen
Date:06/20/14
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SolRo
Lucid dreams suck.

I was on medication that caused them every night...and lucid dreaming about regular shit just makes waking life confusing (and hard to distinguish).

Work on a cheap mask that makes you have good fantastical dreams on demand, then work on making them lucid.
Oscar Wildcat
well shit fire and fuck me, Sol. What medication might that have been???

badideasinaction
I used to have lucid dreams in clusters (like for an entire week in a row every few months) - they were kinda neat, but I couldn't really push things too far without waking up. Interesting for the value of just seeing what seems so "real" normally and knowing it's not. The other weird part was it was never the crazy stuff that clued me into it being a dream, it was "huh, something about this staircase I'm climbing seems off, I must be dreaming". They weren't bad like yours, but they weren't exactly something I'd feel the need to try and experience again.

Binro the Heretic
Mustn't be afraid to dream a little bigger, darling.

Old_Zircon
If you were just lucid dreaming about regular shit then that's your problem, since you could have dreamed about whatever you felt like.

If you couldn't change what you were dreaming then it wasn't a lucid dream.

I've only ever had them spontaneously but they're always pretty amazing when they happen.

Old_Zircon
Also these masks have been on the market off and on since the 80s, I hope a lot of that money is going to a legal fund.

Oscar Wildcat
Well now this is getting interesting. I've had quite a few of these, and just like Sol and Bad I find the really lucid and "real" ones are just that. For example. I am in a room. There is a manual typewriter. I think, "oh this is a dream. Say, I wonder if there is dust and hair and gunk under the machine." Sure enough, I pick it up and there it is, keyboard schmutz. Realistic down to the most minute detail. Everything is solid, and completely real. No dragons, or things on fire talking to me. Just ordinary things, behaving just as they do here.

In fact, I'd go as far as to say when you can't control the thing, and you are lucid, that is when you are really in the state. When you can, then you are experiencing a mix of ordinary dream state with your lucid state. I'm surprised that a majority of you ( and I ) have the same common experience, quite distinct from the received wisdom on the subject.

Mister Yuck
I've had two lucid dreams. I wasn't totally in control for either one or totally out of control either. The second one I tried to do fun stuff, like fly and smash walls, and it didn't really work. The dream seemed unreal and uninteresting when I did anything I couldn't do in real life.

fluffy
I used to have lucid dreams all the time, and either I'd try to take control and immediately wake up, or I'd try to take control and my subconscious would fight me and overrule my bad decisions and call me a bad person for trying to take its agency away from it.

Scrimmjob
Using nicotine patches increased my ability to dream lucidly in a substantial way. I recommend everyone use them.

infinite zest
I don't know if I've ever had a lucid dream. I've had really fucked up dreams but it's still as if I'm watching something.. I'm not in control of the outcome while my mind's most likely telling me "hey maybe you shouldn't have spent a straight month on mushrooms when you were writing your thesis..."

I wouldn't recommend the scenario to anyone, but my ex and I were fairly heavy drinkers when we were married. After drunkenly totalling my car she had to quit or else prison (that meant something as small as kombucha in her piss) I stuck with her but she kept telling me about these incredible lucid dreams, where she was happier in another place with another person. Meanwhile I'm still dreaming about thunder cats. I hope you're happy dreamer.

Doomstein
I've had many lucid dreams, and I've always been fascinated by them.

It's amazing to come to consciousness when you're still in a dream-state. You're standing there, and you're wandering around inside your own subconscious. You pretty much become a god. Everything you see, and touch feels real, and you can do whatever you want. You can speak with the great people of previous generations to try and gain insight and perspective (almost always backfires). You can fly like Superman, spend time with long dead friends, and just general have a blast. Kind of like the holodeck from Star trek TNG.

They almost always devolve into some hedonistic no-rules orgy though.

Syd Midnight
Seconding Scrimmjob. Nicotine can cause massive epic realistic narrative lucid dreams, the kind that cause people to join/invent religions. The trick is that you have to be slowly absorbing the nicotine while you are in REM.

For a grosser option than patches, there's snus, the scandinavian-style smokeless tobacco. I neglected to spit out my snus before I went to bed once, and the dreams I had were so vivid they scared me shitless. I was describing them to a Norwegian friend and he was just like "Ahaha I bet you fall asleep with snus in?"

Scattersane
I could swear I remember reading about a lucid dreaming mask in one of those Johnson Smith "Things You Never Knew Existed!" catalogs, like, fifteen years ago.
badideasinaction
Because the concept behind these things has been around for ages, but the dubious science/success factor means no company ever lasts trying to put these things out. A new one pops up every few years to get the next crop of people clamoring for it.

animegurl1000
Oh man, those Johnson Smith catalogs. My brother bought something from one and he started getting them every month. He didn't care much for them, but I thought they were the coolest thing. They were like half as-seen-on-TV junk and half Spencer Gifts junk.

Never did buy anything off them, though.

animegurl1000
I forgot to mention I remember seeing one of these masks in one. It pretty much had the same concept with the LED lights.

Old_Zircon
All these do is sense REM cycles by tracking the motion of your eyes (or just use a timer maybe on the cheap ones) and then blink and maybe beep when you're likely to be having a dream. You're supposed to train yourself to recognize the linking and beeping as a cue to go into a lucid dream state. Which basically means you have to do almost as much work as if you were learning to just have them without the machine.

Oscar Wildcat
This is true. Machinery is neither necessary nor preferred.

Doomstein
A successful lucid dream induction device would have to have an EEG to sense your REM cycle and have a small unit to hit your brain with a 40hz current.

Studies have shown that 40hz frequency shock to the frontal lobe has a 70%-80% of triggering a lucid dream.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/next/body/gamma-wave-zaps-to-the- brain-induce-lucid-dreaming/

Although I'm curious what the long-term effects of that would be. Maybe memory-loss or parkinsons or something.

Syd Midnight
I remember reading about these in Omni magazine in like 19 fucking 80.

Killer Joe
A connoisseur of lucid dreaming hardware. Hell of a thing to put on the ol' resume/online dating profile.
Syd Midnight
The only lucid dreaming hardware you need is a digital watch. Get into the habit of looking at it every few minutes, and do a quick "am I dreaming right now?" reality check. Digital clocks usually fuck up in your dreams, if it says something weird then you're all set.

It takes a little discipline, but I used to be able to lucid dream a few times a week that way.

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