BIlly Mays Here FYI the comic store clerks' dialogue is lifted straight from negative reviews of Mall Rats. So if Smith had his way Chasing Amy would have opened with him calling his critics fags to show how little he cared.
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Ocyrus Looks like we have ourselves a fanboy!
Suck that fat, talentless, anally-fixated, blob's knob.
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Rovin      "I'm rich."
... Isn't this the guy who was kinda sorta begging people to go see his films or bemoaning how they weren't going to perform or weren't performing PERIOD around the time of Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back and Jersey Girl?
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CharlesSmith      So where's your "better than this" movie Kevin? Where's all the greatness you've been suppressing in order to make your stilted faux-indie train-wrecks? Was it Jersey Girl? It was Jersey Girl wasn't it?
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Lurchi     He could be going for the "worst director in history" title. He left Michael Bay in the dust. Ed Wood wrote better dialogue.
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SteamPoweredKleenex I wish to question your statement, not on the grounds of defending Kevin Smith, but on your apparent high regard for Michael Bay. Have you actually THOUGHT about his "Transformers" movies? He put nards on a robot. The plots make no sense. They star Shia "NONONONONONONONO" TheBeef and a female lead who doesn't have the acting ability of a coked-up porn actress.
His action scenes are filmed in "Confuse-O-Vision," the second film was started with robot designs instead of a script, and he is to storytelling what a blender is to nail clippers.
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Lurchi The Rock was pretty good for a bad movie.
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Hooker Also, Michael Bay has TWO movies in the Criterion catalogue while Kevin Smith only has ONE. What do you say to that?
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Hooker His best and his worst. The Rock and Armageddon. This masterpiece is Kevin Smith's selection.
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Lurchi Not the 90's. History. Kevin Smith is the worst director in history.
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Hooker Christopher Nolan is a hack!
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SteamPoweredKleenex So, Lurchi, you're saying you prefer the work of Uwe Boll, Keenan Ivory Wayans and that tag-team of suck, Jason Friedberg and Aaron Seltzer?
I dub thee troll.
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Lurchi Kevin Smith is the Uwe Boll of comedy.
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garcet71283 Don't go bringing The Doctor into this, he has no place in a Kevin Smith "discussion"
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Xenocide Even if Doctor Who were the worst thing ever made in any medium ever, it would at least be ridiculous enough to be worth waxing rhapsodic about. Whereas Smith's stuff isn't even bad in an interesting way. It's just bland and whiny. You are giving him too much credit by wasting your precious internet rage on him, when EVEN NOW Frank Miller is probably writing another screenplay and only we can stop him.
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Bort I'm pretty sure the ending to "Chasing Amy" is supposed to be stupid, because the point is that Ben Affleck doesn't know how to handle things and screws up. It's not a rewarding kind of stupid, but it's got a true-to-life feeling to it, where stupidity isn't magically redeemed through good intentions.
Basically, the point of the movie was dysfunction, and Kevin Smith followed it through to its most likely conclusion. Not the happiest ending, but it seemed like the right one.
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hornung      his goatee is lopsided.
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zatojones      would you people shut the fuck up? those movies were funny
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BIlly Mays Here Kevin Smith movies are funny if you're a dork in the 90s growing up in a world where seeing a movie where guys talk about Star Wars is novel and amazing and funny. In the modern internet age it's just embarrassing, doubly so as Smith insists on thrusting himself in the spotlight whenever possible (endless podcasts, Evening With... DVDs, and live speakign events) then turning around and whining about any negative publicity or criticism he gets.
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Lurchi No, they weren't funny even then.
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CharlesSmith Poorwill, you have honestly seen the best two. No shit. Even his fans would agree.
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Xenocide No. Clerks is his best movie.
None of them are particularly good, though, nor particularly bad. They're straightforward comedies with lots of cursing, distinguished only be some recurring characters and shoehorned-in Star Wars jokes.
They're really not worth getting so worked up about either way, but don't let me stop you.
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Architeuthis Tux No, socialist hentai, von Trier has earned every dollop of shit that's ever been sent his way.
I'm indifferent to Smith's stuff. It's bad, but it's not really aimed at me so I can just ignore it. If I were a disaffected, witty college student with a cadre of counter-cultural dork-friends I'd be a lot more annoyed by him.
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MaulLove I foolishly rented Clerks 2, having seen and marginally enjoyed Clerks and Dogma. Clerks 2 wasn't funny at all, just crass. I'm not a prude, it just wasn't fucking funny at all.
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Candlejackv616 When I was 15 or 16 I would v said Dogma and Mallrats. Nowadays I would say Mallrats and Clerks. Dogma is just kinda embarrassing to watch in parts, some novel ideas and couple decent bits with Jay and Bob and whatnot, but mostly I just kinda cringe on and off throughout when I watch it.
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Bort      Good call, Syd.
The first KS film I saw was "Chasing Amy", and I should have stopped there. It's got a lot going for it, but I think I would have hated it if I'd seen "Clerks" first, and realized that KS was broadcasting his issues with women yet again. (I can't begrudge him working through his issues or feeling there's a story to tell; "Chasing Amy" worked well on both levels. But it's the sort of thing you really should do only once.)
The thing that grates is when Kevin Smith gets self-indulgent, for example when he works responses to Internet critics into his movies, or when he puts his favorite band in a film and dances with them. KS does that way too much.
"Boo Boo Kitty Fuck" still makes me laugh and I would shake Kevin Smith's hand just for that.
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lolcoolj      I HATE KEVIN SMITH BUT HERE IS 5 STARS BECAUSE THE 5 STARS REPRESENT THAT I HATE HIM 5 TIMES AS MUCH. RAGE RAGE RAGE!
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chumbucket     I think I know why this scene was deleted but for the life of me I don't know why the rest of the movie wasn't deleted with it.
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APE_GOD      I saw him speak at an event (no that wasn't why I was there)
The first thing that struck me was how morbidly obese he was. Like holy-shit-how-does-that-happen-fat.
As I was trying to correlate this he started talking about how hot his wife is. She was sitting in the front row. Proceeded to relate how hot his wife was to his success, how being as successful as he is, allowed him, a huge gross fat guy with a tiny dick (a paraphrase of his words) gets to now fuck this hot woman.
Then he invited the whole audience to fuck his wife to see how good she was, so they could understand how lucky he is.
What is he, like, in his 40's?
The guy has no class, in all the wrong, not-hip-or-cool-or-transgressive ways. He is just gross and mediocre and can't stop bragging about it.
Hate to say it, but he is a typical American.
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Riskbreaker Has anyone posted a trailer to Cop Out? That should end any further discussion regarding Kevin Smith.
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Jeff Fries It pains me to see Tracy Morgan stoop to cooning
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anotherdeadhero      Fuck y'all, 5 stars!
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Wonko the Sane    As a Kevin Smith apologist, that was terrible.
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charmlessman      Stilted, awkward, juvenile, ham handed.
ALL the stuff I love about Kevin Smith!!
5 Stars!
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burnt popcorn      Didn't Orson Welles grow a beard AFTER peaking early and being too fat to fly?
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NewHeavenSalesman      Five stars for being the Hollywood equivalent of a Portal of Evil revenge comic.
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Ocyrus      "I'm rich"... oh yeah, so was Hitler.
That sums it up for me, anyone that can justify their actions solely on the wealth they have accumulated is human trash in my eyes. That was Kevin Smith's inner dialogue, his limited success with a bunch of other mostly fat losers (300 Million Americans, more than 2/3rds of whom are obese and brain dead), has gone to his gut and to his head.
I'll give him credit for Clerks, after that he's shyte.
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Paracelsus      Five stars for completely unneccessary further evidence of Smith's cultural-barnacle status.
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DJRobotron Kevin Smith, To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.
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nemeses9      I must be the only person here who enjoyed Dogma and the Clerks films.
Or the only one willing to admit it anyway.
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Potrod    Obviously awful, but while it was awful, it was not awful enough to convince me that Kevin Smith is human garbage (especially since he apparently cut it), either, so... 3 stars for this.
I liked Clerks, disliked Clerks 2, and have no interest in seeing any of his other movies. I liked his stories about Prince. As somebody basically indifferent to him, I find the vitriolic hatred this guy inspires in people somewhat puzzling and annoying. He's not the "For The Record" guy, which seems to be the level of hate he's getting from a lot of people.
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oogaBooga      That sure is a lot of attention given to someone everyone purportedly hates.
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joelkazoo   After all that hype, it was a great big "meh".
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FABIO Kevin Smith movies were funny up until we all discovered internet humor with the exception of Jay saying wacky shit.
END STORY
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Harveyjames      His movies are fucking horrible but I think he would make a pretty great recurring centre square on Hollywood Squares
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woodenbandman Fuck all you guys, Dogma was rad as fuck
Kevin smith would be funny if he didn't think that he was clever. He substitutes witty banter for pretty much everything. Need plot exposition? Witty banter. Need a joke? Witty banter. Witty banter? Dick fart fart butt.
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WHO WANTS DESSERT     Red State is going to be such shit
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klingerbgoode This now links to 'Indian man paints with tongue". Thanks, AOL.
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